drew408

Anyone using this trick flow camshaft? Any dyno numbers?

I plan on using it in a ly6 with ls2 pistons/rods and 799 heads(dual springs) This will be going in a heavy AWD truck so I'm mainly looking for torque.

It's only $279 thru Summit. I've seen a lot of folks with the Comp 216/220 with .53x lift post some ok numbers but no1 with the higher lift cam.

I've also got a set of 1.8 Yella Terra's to try out should I need more lift.

Anyone using one?

Thanks!!

NAVYBLUE210

Do a search EPS truck cam 205*/210* 115*+3* picked up
40 hp & 25 lb ft with stock Driveability and the same or better
Mileage driven gently in a 5.3. Talk with Kip @ CAM MOTION.

drew408

Yea,that's $380+ and a 5.3 :wink:

That 205/210 cam would Peter out way to quick in a 6.0....

Plus I've already bought the Trick Flow!lol

But thanks for the quick reply!

NAVYBLUE210

Should run pretty good, would probably go 210*/215* if I didn't have the
TFS cam already, (just splitting hairs) will run well with 114* LSA,
really don't need the extra .030" from the 1.8 RRs on your setup.
What is your Intake. MAMOFIED LSRT probably worth 30+ HP & Torque
Throughout the curve!

Darth_V8r

iTrader: (4)

If you're looking for more torque, install the cam 4 degrees advanced. That'll help but will sacrifice a bit up top. Won't spin to 7k but will get those tires moving.

drew408

Intake is a TBSS.....on my stroker ls3 headed engine,the ported truck manifold did better than a FAST. Either I'm going to get the TBSS ported or go with a Holley Hi Ram.

Isn't it going to die off fairly quick anyways without advancing it 4*?? I want it to rev past 5k lol

drew408

Forgot the whole combo....

Kooks LT headers and ORY v banded together for easy assembly/disassembly
Corsa exhaust
4" cutout
Built trans with 3200 stall PI multi disk(will prob restall to a 2600-2800)
TBSS intake with ported 90mm ls2 TB
Powerbond UD pulley w/ ARP crank bolt
PRW platinum flexplate
ARP rod bolts
ARP head studs
Comp trunion upgrade on stock rockers
Comp 921 dual springs with Ti retainers
Melling m295 oil pump ported
Cloyes hex a just timing set
Ly6 block with ls2 pistons/rods
799 heads
216/220 .560/.560 114lsa trick flow cam
GM ls9 head gaskets
Rotating assembly balanced
Denso Supra TT fuel pump
65# injectors
Custom tuning

Should be around 10.9:1 compression ratio. I know it's a high compression ratio but I do plan on a turbo kit in the future and running low boost/alky until I replace this engine with my ls3 headed 408. I already have all parts for going turbo but the hot side....

Only other mods I'm considering are porting the TBSS intake or going to a Holley Hi Ram and either the $750 PRC head porting or the $995 AI head porting.

I know it's a small cam but from talking with AI it seems I'd still pick up 35-40hp at the wheels going with a ported head....

Darth_V8r

iTrader: (4)

I'll say this. If the trick flow cam has advance already ground into it then just install it straight up. If not a few degrees will help the low end.

If ICL is 110 or higher it'll still rev. The lack of overlap will hurt the ability of the cam to carry power past about 4800 anyway. I cam with lower LSA would have helped it carry power better

Also, your head work is the best thing you can do to compliment your cam.

drew408

Lol,it'll still rev and make power well past 4800....It might not pull as hard as a cam with more overlap but saying it won't carry power past 4800 isn't an accurate statement in my experience. If the 216/220 cam was in a 454 ci ls3 headed engine,I'd agree but we're talking 364ci.

If it had advance built into it,the cam card would read somtging like "114+2",it doesn't,just read 114.

My 408's cam is a 114+4 and it pulls all the way to 7200 as if it were pulling to 2200. Now that's a 408 with TEA ls3 heads and a healthy 230s/240s cam with .620+ lift tho.

What a c5 z06 ground on like a 117? Ever drive one? Stock you'll bounce off the limiter.....

From every dyno sheet I've seen on ls1's running the low lift 216/220 Comp,they're pulling up to 6200 and still have good power under the curve. I'm just curious how this cam will act...

Darth_V8r

iTrader: (4)

I think I said what I meant rather poorly. I wasn't saying it won't carry. Just that more overlap would help it carry. And since you already have the cam rather than make a new cam suggestion I thought I'd offer an alternate solution to help on the low end since that seemed to be a concern.

I have the C5 Z06 cam in a 5.3 and know it's behavior rather well, and I hate it.

drew408

If I were to advance it,would it not cause the power to come on earlier and die sooner??

I've got a stall and I've got the displacement of think if anything I'd want to retard it.....

And if I wanted it to pull higher up,use the 1.8 Yella Terra's.

Are u telling me that isn't correct?

Darth_V8r

iTrader: (4)

You've got it correct. Maybe I misunderstood your goals. In the OP, I read "mainly looking for torque" but in your follow up posts it looks like you're wanting to rev. I would definitely not retard it unless you are chasing 6500 rpm power.

After all the back and forth I'm thinking you probably should install it straight up and if you don't get the top end you like, you would do best to get a cam with more duration and more overlap like the tick SNS torque max 2. If you wer to install the 1.8 rockets, the cam would basically act 3 degrees larger than it is, which would barely register a difference, and not be worth the cost.

drew408

I don't want it to spin to the sky but it's a 216/220 cam,that's small for a 6.0 so it won't need to be installed advanced to have a good bit of tq down low. Now if it were a 5.3.....or even a 5.7.....but it's not.

drew408

Oh,already have the 1.8 rockets and I picked them up CHEAP(less than $200)

I'm thinking it's gonna make peak around 5600-5800 and shift point will be 6000-6200.

I can't really find any1 running this cam or the Low lift Comp in a 6.0 tho....and every1 is running them with 241's or 5.3 heads.

usdmholden

That cam and the Jegs equivalent (for about the same price) have been talked about on here for a long time. Nobody ever seems to choose it though for whatever reason.

I would be very interested to see the results. If it can make 400 rwhp with a pair of 243/799 and intake and headers, while still being a pretty nice driver, it would be high on my list of future mods. I suspect it will do all those things on a RWD car.

If you wanted to go bigger Jegs also has a 228/230 for $291. Is that Jegs cam the most recently popular latest and greatest end all be all forum sponsor uber cam ground from ultra billet MIL spec unobtanium on lobes specified by guru PhD candidates using machines operated by sharks with laser beams attached to their heads? No, but it is about $100 less than all those cams and I bet it comes within 10 rwhp.

bobfig

i had that cam in my hands but ended up returning it. spec wise seems about perfect for my truck when i was putting some milled 799 heads on. just didnt have the money or the drive to put it in when its 100% humidity and 98º out.

drew408

I've found a few in the 380hp/400tq range with stock 241's on a ls1 using the Trick Flow Stage 1 216/220.

I'm very curious of what they'll do on a 6.0....

Darth_V8r

iTrader: (4)

Peak HP will be about the same. Torque a bit highet

omc8

iTrader: (7)

I think you have transposed a couple of your numbers in the price its $287.97 , still a good price though. I believe this is the same cam Jegs sells as a house brand and will not say who grinds it , but I believe its the same cam . Jegs sells it for $ 291.
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performan...00580/10002/-1

drew408

^^^^ maybe so!lol

I've got it and it comewith a packet of Elgin cam lube....unfortunately it comes in a small plastic bag and was busted open in mine!lol