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alaska_guy 05-29-2016 09:29 PM

completely stock 1999 TA, wanting a streetable cam.
 
So I haven't been in the game for a while.... my last lt1 had a gm847 cam and was awesome for power, but you had to spin it to the moon to make power. I swapped in a hotcam and drive ability was great but the power was of course lacking.

I am looking for a compromise if something exists. My 99 TA is an A4 that I plan to drive daily in the summer to work. Not looking for dyno bragging rights or racing, just wanting something with a little more hp and tq through out the band, fun to drive and sounds good.

I was going to purchase a hotcam but figured in the 8 years or so some decent cams may have come out that would meet my needs.

Most mods I see in the future for this car are headers with cat y pipe and a lid. Wanting cats to keep the exhaust noise down. I drive 30 miles to work.

thanks fellas I appreciate it.

JoeNova 05-29-2016 09:35 PM

Trick flow 228/230 is a very nice street cam. You can make 400 wheel with mild bolt-ons and a good tune, and it drives very nice in a stock displacement LS1. The sub .600 lift means it works well with single beehive valve springs which will help you keep your stock trunions, pushrods, timing chain, etc.

HCI2000SS 05-29-2016 09:45 PM

I know the old 228r seems to be favored for this type of scenario

07NBSChevy 05-30-2016 01:17 AM

Most larger cams will require a higher stall converter. If you want a stock stall I would go with a TSP 220R or similar. A 224R would be a great choice as well but would be best with a 2800-3200 Stall.

alaska_guy 05-30-2016 01:52 AM

Thanks for the advice. Looking at the specs on most of the cams listed it looks like I wouldn't really benefit too much without a 3k stall first as most don't start to make any notice power until 3k rpm range. I have no idea what the stock trq converter is now but completely stock I feel a 3k torque converter would wake this car up. My last car was a manual so if it needed to Rev high I could just dump the clutch if needed.

Ideally I would rather not buy a stall if I don't have to because most name brands are around $800 plus install. However if my money is better spent with a stall instead of a cam I could go that route. Especially if I am going to need a stall later down the road anyhow.

I have been contemplating a 3200-3600 stall as a first supporting mod paired with some longtubes anyhow. I just love the sound of a cam. ;)

That_One_Person 05-30-2016 02:00 AM


Originally Posted by alaska_guy (Post 19278254)
Thanks for the advice. Looking at the specs on most of the cams listed it looks like I wouldn't really benefit too much without a 3k stall first as most don't start to make any notice power until 3k rpm range. I have no idea what the stock trq converter is now but completely stock I feel a 3k torque converter would wake this car up. My last car was a manual so if it needed to Rev high I could just dump the clutch if needed.

Ideally I would rather not buy a stall if I don't have to because most name brands are around $800 plus install. However if my money is better spent with a stall instead of a cam I could go that route. Especially if I am going to need a stall later down the road anyhow.

I have been contemplating a 3200-3600 stall as a first supporting mod paired with some longtubes anyhow. I just love the sound of a cam. ;)

Very good idea. Get the feel of how a bolt-on, stalled, tuned car feels and then decide how much further you want to go with it. Most people suggest at least a 3600. I'll be going with a 4k here in a couple of months hopefully. Two suggestions I see on here a bunch that I don't have experience with are those within the 224-228 and 228-232. They seem to be the best all around with the second being the largest with great balance between performance and drivability.

07NBSChevy 05-30-2016 04:10 AM

I would highly suggest a higher stall, look into Circle-D. They start around $450 for their basic converter which would work for your situation. A 3600 Stall, TSP 228/228-.600/.600 on a 112 LSA, BTR .660 Platinum Valve springs, Straub or BTR Trunnion upgrade, 1-3/4" headers, a nice sounding catback and a tune would be very nice. Probably see a 65+ RWHP gain and would be very streetable with a decent lope, shift point set at 6,600 rpm. That would be the largest cam I would recommend without head work. If you wanted a cheap route for heads, pick up a used stock set of 243 heads, mill them down enough to get 10.8:1 compression and run on 91 octane, would be good for another 20+ RWHP. It would put y0u around 470+ HP at the crank.


This would be what I would do once I get a 02 WS6

BBATCAR 05-30-2016 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by 07NBSChevy (Post 19278244)
Most larger cams will require a higher stall converter. If you want a stock stall I would go with a TSP 220R or similar. A 224R would be a great choice as well but would be best with a 2800-3200 Stall.

I have a similar set up. Works with stock stall but I will be going to a 2800 stall as there will still be a slight push on the brakes. Nothing bad but just want a better launch. I agree a 220 - 224 range cam.

TXZ28LS1 05-30-2016 11:13 AM

TSP 228r and 3600 stall...

farmington 05-30-2016 12:11 PM

Just saw a new 228r for sale in the classifieds

alaska_guy 05-30-2016 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by 07NBSChevy (Post 19278281)
I would highly suggest a higher stall, look into Circle-D. They start around $450 for their basic converter which would work for your situation. A 3600 Stall, TSP 228/228-.600/.600 on a 112 LSA, BTR .660 Platinum Valve springs, Straub or BTR Trunnion upgrade, 1-3/4" headers, a nice sounding catback and a tune would be very nice. Probably see a 65+ RWHP gain and would be very streetable with a decent lope, shift point set at 6,600 rpm. That would be the largest cam I would recommend without head work. If you wanted a cheap route for heads, pick up a used stock set of 243 heads, mill them down enough to get 10.8:1 compression and run on 91 octane, would be good for another 20+ RWHP. It would put y0u around 470+ HP at the crank.


This would be what I would do once I get a 02 WS6

More info on this stall for $450? Will I need an upgraded transmission cooler as well?

alaska_guy 05-31-2016 01:11 AM

I found this video on youtube... Stock manifolds and a cam in the 220 range. I could handle that for daily driving. Nothing amazing for hp/tq but its not bad and still fairly quiet sounding.



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