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Old 06-07-2016, 11:19 AM
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Since the rebuild of my engine I have pretty bad oil leak all over top/rear of my engine. I tried to trace the leaks and it seems like the most is coming form the driver side head gasket, about 2" from the "top". It's where the paper with the sticker goes in the picture. Is this even possible???
I have LS6 intake if that matters and during rebuild I put LS9 gaskets.
What's strange too, looks like oil is pouring to both sides of the engine, I have oil dripping from the starter too... Also I have small leak from the oil pan gasket but it's really tiny.
Any ideas what's happening??
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And here's the epicentre of the leak (at least on the drivers' side):
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Originally Posted by Vetal
Since the rebuild of my engine I have pretty bad oil leak all over top/rear of my engine. I tried to trace the leaks and it seems like the most is coming form the driver side head gasket, about 2" from the "top". It's where the paper with the sticker goes in the picture. Is this even possible??? I have LS6 intake if that matters and during rebuild I put LS7 gaskets. What's strange too, looks like oil is pouring to both sides of the engine, I have oil dripping from the starter too... Also I have small leak from the oil pan gasket but it's really tiny. Any ideas what's happening??
Can you feel around the base of the oil pressure sending unit?

It might be dripping and once it drips it'll show up everywhere even under the tranny bellhousing area
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Originally Posted by Burken01
Can you feel around the base of the oil pressure sending unit?

It might be dripping and once it drips it'll show up everywhere even under the tranny bellhousing area
Yes, using mirror (and finger) it's definetely not PSU leaking...
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Is it more probable that oil is leaking through LS7 head gasket, or between the mating surfaces?
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what size engine are you working on? LS7 bore is 4.125 LS1 bore 3.90
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Originally Posted by slogo
what size engine are you working on? LS7 bore is 4.125 LS1 bore 3.90
Looks like a ls6 block based by the partial block #

What heads are those OP??
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This is 2004' LS1 block with 3.905" bore with Patriot Stage II LS1 heads
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The LS7 gasket is made specifically for the LS7 block.

The water passages on top of the cylinder are shaped just a little different vs the ls1 block.

Idk if this is why you are leaking oil, can you verify its the head gasket and not the valley cover?

You have a gasket under the valley cover right? Sorry had to ask lol

As far as the oil pan leak, did you follow the alignment procedure and use rtv on the 4 corners where the front and rear cover touch the pan?
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You Used ls7 head gaskets on your ls1..???? Yeah... Youre leaking oil lol and probably are pushing water.
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Originally Posted by Burken01
The LS7 gasket is made specifically for the LS7 block.

The water passages on top of the cylinder are shaped just a little different vs the ls1 block.

Idk if this is why you are leaking oil, can you verify its the head gasket and not the valley cover?

You have a gasket under the valley cover right? Sorry had to ask lol
When I did the research, I concluded that many are recommending LS7 HGs on boosted LS1 block.
You can see from the pic that leak is originating ~1.5" from top of the head, so doesn't look like it's coming from valley cover... I have suspicion that valley cover is leaking oil on passenger side, but on drivers side it absolutely looks like oil is coming from head/HG/block mating...
Originally Posted by Burken01
As far as the oil pan leak, did you follow the alignment procedure and use rtv on the 4 corners where the front and rear cover touch the pan?
It's coming from the middle of the left side mating surface, not on the corners...
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The LS9 gaskets are the ones recommended for boost
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Originally Posted by squarles67
The LS9 gaskets are the ones recommended for boost
Sorry, then it must be LS9 HG's those from boosted Corvette, 5 or 7 layers IIRC
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Originally Posted by Vetal
Sorry, then it must be LS9 HG's those from boosted Corvette, 5 or 7 layers IIRC
checked the PN, indeed gaskets are LS9, thanx for the correction. And indeed drivers side HG leaks oil from the back of the head...
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It's 3am here and I might be asking stupid question, but... Can oil get into the intake runners from the head ports?
I've removed intake, cleaned everything, put intake back and ran the engine for few minutes. Then I pulled the intake off and all ports in the heads were covered with oil and most of intake runners too, however it seems that oil is coming FROM head ports into the intake, and not vice versa like I was expecting (if PCV was sucking oil into the intake).
Is this even possible???
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Originally Posted by Vetal
It's 3am here and I might be asking stupid question, but... Can oil get into the intake runners from the head ports?
I've removed intake, cleaned everything, put intake back and ran the engine for few minutes. Then I pulled the intake off and all ports in the heads were covered with oil and most of intake runners too, however it seems that oil is coming FROM head ports into the intake, and not vice versa like I was expecting (if PCV was sucking oil into the intake).
Is this even possible???

On aftermarket heads you must rtv seal the intake rocker bolt holes and some intake manifold bolt holes. They break thru when cncing. Also I think it happens when u get the gm heads cnc'd as well.
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Leaking valve stem seals.
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Is there any way to check if it's rocker bolts or valve seals?
I used RTV under rocker bolts heads (those that protrude into the ports) and valve stem seals are new...
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Seems like the easy route would be to re-torque the bolts with a lot of RTV. Still oil? Seals or holes where there aren't supposed to be any!
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Originally Posted by Mercier
Seems like the easy route would be to re-torque the bolts with a lot of RTV. Still oil? Seals or holes where there aren't supposed to be any!
Yes you are correct.
Also yesterday I installed intake, ran the engine for some 30-40 seconds, pulled the intake, and in the heads' runners I couldn't find evidences that oil is sucked through rocker holes


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