texas speed rocker arms update?
#61
Price to me for set of TSP steel roller rockers
Texas Speed great job coming out with the new rockers. I think they are awesome. Do we have an expected time frame when these will be in stock? Also, I may have missed it but was a cost announced yet? I assume these new roller tips will be much better for heads with bronze guides, correct?
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We don't use Comp Trunions in our Roller Rockers. We use the TSP Trunions, while they are still a needle bearing, they are not the same as far as quality.
We are working closely with CHE to develop a busing for these as well. The standard CHE Bushing kit will NOT work in our Roller Rocker. The sides of our rocker are thicker and needs a small change.
We are working closely with CHE to develop a busing for these as well. The standard CHE Bushing kit will NOT work in our Roller Rocker. The sides of our rocker are thicker and needs a small change.
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#67
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I keep seeing people post this but I've installed dozens of them without issue. What exactly fails in the COMP version? We have cars that see 7500 RPM with them daily and they look like new. Of course I have many more that run stock rockers and no issue with those either. I think the whole rocker failure thing is a very low percentage.
#68
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The trunnions start to fail before anything is heard; everything seems normal. But upon inspection of the trunnion, many appear to erode from a metallurgical mismatch of the trunnion and roller bearings. The trunnions are too soft and whittle away. IF the trunnions were properly hardened to the right spec for the bearing used, they would live a good long life.
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The trunnions start to fail before anything is heard; everything seems normal. But upon inspection of the trunnion, many appear to erode from a metallurgical mismatch of the trunnion and roller bearings. The trunnions are too soft and whittle away. IF the trunnions were properly hardened to the right spec for the bearing used, they would live a good long life.
Assume the Summit/BTR/etc trunion kits are the same as COMP?
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The trunnions start to fail before anything is heard; everything seems normal. But upon inspection of the trunnion, many appear to erode from a metallurgical mismatch of the trunnion and roller bearings. The trunnions are too soft and whittle away. IF the trunnions were properly hardened to the right spec for the bearing used, they would live a good long life.
#71
I like how everybody puts the blame on the product, nobody even considers that maybe
the install was done by someone who was incompetent. Just because you can cram them in there doesn't mean they was installed correctly. The first set I installed, the Trunnions looked great, but after install, on an Arbor Press in a clean environment with clean hands and tools, a couple of them felt gritty, I had to disassemble and clean with solvent and reassemble before they felt smooth. Everybody knows Needle Bearings and Dirt don't mix.
the install was done by someone who was incompetent. Just because you can cram them in there doesn't mean they was installed correctly. The first set I installed, the Trunnions looked great, but after install, on an Arbor Press in a clean environment with clean hands and tools, a couple of them felt gritty, I had to disassemble and clean with solvent and reassemble before they felt smooth. Everybody knows Needle Bearings and Dirt don't mix.
#72
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You make good points Slogo, but some of the failed trunnions, when hardness tested, proved to be too soft to run roller bearings in for extended lengths of time. There ARE material issues. Not saying there weren't some sloppy installs, I'm sure that happened too, and made matters worse.
#73
You make good points Slogo, but some of the failed trunnions, when hardness tested, proved to be too soft to run roller bearings in for extended lengths of time. There ARE material issues. Not saying there weren't some sloppy installs, I'm sure that happened too, and made matters worse.
#74
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There is a whole LOOOONG thread mainly about Straub bushings where I THINK someone ran hardness tests on the Comp trunnions, and they were too soft for the intended use.
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...n-kits-17.html here is where a member tested the comp trunion.
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We have sent the rockers to guys at CHE. They are going to get cracking on making the sets as possible. In talking with them, we are confident in a timeframe right at 60 days.
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Largest Stocking Distributor of LS-x Engines / CHECK OUT OUR NEW WEBSITE!
COMP - FAST - PACESETTER - DIAMOND RACING - EAGLE SPECIALTY PRODUCTS - CALLIES - COMETIC GASKETS
RAM CLUTCHES - MOSER ENGINEERING - KOOK'S HEADERS - ARP - GM BOLTS AND GASKETS - MSD - NGK
POWERBOND - ASP - AND MORE!