Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Picked up a Cam, gen III . Need opinions on specs. 224/230 .610 .613

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-24-2017, 06:27 AM
  #1  
Teching In
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
2000ssNX20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: MA
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Picked up a Cam, gen III . Need opinions on specs. 224/230 .610 .613

Heres all the specs.
224/230
.610 .613
Duration at .006 274/280
Valve timing @.050
Intake open 2- BTDC
close 46 ABDC
Exhaust open 49 BBDC close 1 ATDC
Those are installed at 114 Intake center line.

114LSA

Thanks for any help.

Shawn
Old 06-24-2017, 08:44 AM
  #2  
TECH Senior Member
 
G Atsma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Central Cal.
Posts: 20,867
Received 3,018 Likes on 2,349 Posts
Default

What is the intended use?
Old 06-24-2017, 10:22 AM
  #3  
FormerVendor
iTrader: (1)
 
pantera_efi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Santa Ana, CA. USA
Posts: 2,157
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 16 Posts

Default Camshaft @ Split Overlap

Hi NX20, the camshaft you have chosen should be "timed" at Split Overlap, NOT RETARDED as you state.
This will time your IVCP at 44*

The Intake Valve Closing point would work better if on a 116-117 C/L.

To know your Timing Chain choice would help as most "Dual Rollers" stretch more than a Single with Dampener.

This "guess" of mine is NOT best as NO REPORT for intended use was provided.

"G" asked the best question, provide more information.

You could send the Lobe Files, then I could model using EAP.

Lance
Old 06-24-2017, 11:03 AM
  #4  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
 
07NBSChevy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 607
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

I assume this is for an LS1 with the mods that are listed in your Sig?
Old 06-24-2017, 12:06 PM
  #5  
On The Tree
 
98znasty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Tucson AZ
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Way to much lift
Old 06-24-2017, 12:07 PM
  #6  
TECH Senior Member
 
G Atsma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Central Cal.
Posts: 20,867
Received 3,018 Likes on 2,349 Posts
Default

Which heads are you using?
Old 06-24-2017, 12:33 PM
  #7  
Moderator
iTrader: (4)
 
Darth_V8r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: My own internal universe
Posts: 10,446
Received 1,835 Likes on 1,145 Posts
Default

I think that cam will be a decent street cam, BUT with those ramp rates you need some additional support in the valvevtrain.

Minimum get a set of psi 1511 springs. Better yet get AFR 8019.

Minimum get 5/16" x 0.080 pushrods. Better yet, get 11/32" x .105 pushrods.
Old 06-24-2017, 02:53 PM
  #8  
Teching In
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
2000ssNX20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: MA
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
I think that cam will be a decent street cam, BUT with those ramp rates you need some additional support in the valvevtrain.

Minimum get a set of psi 1511 springs. Better yet get AFR 8019.

Minimum get 5/16" x 0.080 pushrods. Better yet, get 11/32" x .105 pushrods.
Street/drag car.
4l80 going in with 3600 converter
Intend to spray 150ish on it as well.
This originally was to be a low buck build but then i got the heads and that changed things. SO:
Engine is iron 6.0
(Stock) short block.
New Cam bearings
fast 102 unported
1 7/8 headers Y pipe 3" single exhaust.

bought these heads
https://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-classifieds/1809543-ls-afr-215-s-hand-finished-tony-mamo.html

Johnson short travel Lifters
11/32 push rods
yella terra
The engine is sitting on a stand.
currently has tick cam
231 238 .617 .598 113lsa
don't have all the specs in front of me at the moment. Was thinking of changing cams.
Old 06-24-2017, 04:39 PM
  #9  
TECH Fanatic
 
NAVYBLUE210's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Coast of San Mateo County Between Pacifica & HMB
Posts: 1,815
Received 215 Likes on 128 Posts

Default

That 224/230, 114* will work great in a street/strip car & 150 shot
with the MAMOFIED AFR 215s. +3* advance would be ideal IMO
some will say the cam is little small but that combo will RIP!
Lift on cam is good also with those heads.
Your single 3" after Y will cost some power.
Old 06-24-2017, 04:56 PM
  #10  
TECH Fanatic
 
NAVYBLUE210's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Coast of San Mateo County Between Pacifica & HMB
Posts: 1,815
Received 215 Likes on 128 Posts

Default

Actually the Tick cam would work even better in the 6.0
with the AFR heads & N2O, sell the new cam with the LS1,
LOL Exhaust will really hold it back now!
Old 06-24-2017, 05:13 PM
  #11  
Moderator
iTrader: (4)
 
Darth_V8r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: My own internal universe
Posts: 10,446
Received 1,835 Likes on 1,145 Posts
Default

Agreed. That 231 tick cam will be better
Old 06-24-2017, 07:03 PM
  #12  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
LilJayV10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Evansville,IN
Posts: 9,300
Received 857 Likes on 610 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by G Atsma
What is the intended use?
not important. the internet is suppose to speculate.

because racecar.
Old 06-24-2017, 07:22 PM
  #13  
TECH Senior Member
 
G Atsma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Central Cal.
Posts: 20,867
Received 3,018 Likes on 2,349 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LilJayV10
not important. the internet is suppose to speculate. because racecar.
Whoa! Well just excuse my irrelevance! LOL
Old 06-24-2017, 09:22 PM
  #14  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
 
07NBSChevy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 607
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LilJayV10
not important. the internet is suppose to speculate.

because racecar.
I thought it was going in a stock LS1 engine by the limited first description, or an airplane....because raceplane.
Old 06-27-2017, 11:55 AM
  #15  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Aston Tibs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 472
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts

Default

I have a Comp Cam with similar specs in my 68 Camaro LS-1 swap. I am at 223/231 .610/.617. The cam was ground with a 112 lobe separation angle and a107 degree intake centerline, but I retarded it 4 degrees to get a better PTV clearance. The RPM ranges is stated as 1700-6800 RPM and I made 400 RWHP at about 6000 RPM. My max torque is 383 and I make 350+ Ftlbs from 3400-6000 RPM. Idles at 800 RPM with 16" of vacuum. Great street/strip cam in my opinion



Quick Reply: Picked up a Cam, gen III . Need opinions on specs. 224/230 .610 .613



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:50 PM.