Cam for 5400lb truck
#21
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Should look something like
212/218 @ .050
.550/.550" lift
114* LSA
110* ICL
112* LSA will make a little more midrange and have a more noticeable idle
114* LSA will carry the torque curve a little higher in the RPM range and make a broader torque curve with a smoother idle.
With a stock stall, I would run the 114* LSA cam. Off-idle torque will be stronger and it will pull a little more idle vacuum.
#22
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TSP no longer uses Comp for their cams, and grinds them in-house. They have revised many of their cams to lobes easier on the valve train. Their 212/218, .550 is very close if not identical to the one stated above. Call TSP for particulars.
#25
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Good point. They DO offer .600 lift versions for those wanting it on all but the smallest truck cam. But yeah, the .550 ones would do fine with LS6 springs. I think you are right, but we CAN speculate, right? lol
#26
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Your best bet will be discussing all your goals with one of the sponsors that either designs or cuts cams or both. Not that I or others don't want to help, but the best answers will come from the person that designs the cam with all of your specific goals in mind.
If you don't want to go that route i'd pick one of the truck cam offerings and run with it. I personally would stay with a smaller truck cam to have more low end. For example BTR I believe has stage 1-4 truck cams, the stage 4 in my opinion would be better suited for a little street strip type truck and the stage 1 - 2 may be better for your heavy truck that will do some pulling. ( I didn't go back but I think you mentioned towing )
Anyone feel free to correct me if i'm off on that. I know Darth definitely has a deeper knowledge/experience in this field than I.
#27
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AGAIN, good points! Yeah, call either Cam Motion or Texas Speed and Performance (or better yet, BOTH) and they WILL steer you to a cam that will do what you want. They both have very good low-end cams to do the job.
#28
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I run a BTR Truck Stage 2, 212/218 .553/.553 113+2 LSA, with PAC 1218 valve springs for piece of mind. Cam comes in at 2400ish RPM compared to stock and pulls to 6200 rpm. I am using this with a stock converter since I tow close to 7,000 lbs. This cam definitely added more torque for towing, around 3500 rpm-5500 rpm is where I noticed the biggest jump in power.
A cam that will provide a bit more torque than the BTR Truck Stage 2, that works with a stock converter, is the TSP 212/218 .600/.600 on a 112 LSA. The higher lift can add a but more torque throughout the curve, maybe 7-10 Hp/Tq.
If you plan on towing and/or want to use the stock converter, I would stay at or under a 212/218 duration, as well as use a lift between .550 to .600. A 112 to 114 LSA will help keep the curve lower in the rpm range. I tried a BTR Truck Stage 3 (218/224) and the TSP 216/220, and both had a slightly noticeable lowend loss compared to stock below 2,600 rpm, but will have more power above 4500 rpm and pull to 6,500 or so. With a stock converter, a 212/218 cam is the best all around cam and about the highest duration before lowend loss will be noticeable. I was told the BTR Truck Stage 2 outperforms the stock cam (A Gen4 5.3 Cam) down to 2,000ish rpm. There may be a slight loss from 1500-2000 rpm of 5hp or so, but generally you are not below 2k rpm unless you are cruising on the highway at 65 mph, and no cam will provide better lowend under 2,000 rpm unless you go with a smaller duration than stock.
If you are pulling the heads to change lifters or something, I would go with a smaller thickness head gasket to help with quench and achieve a slightly higher compression ratio. Higher compression translates to more lowend power. Milling the heads is also another option, 10.5:1-11:1 is a good compression ratio to be at.
A cam that will provide a bit more torque than the BTR Truck Stage 2, that works with a stock converter, is the TSP 212/218 .600/.600 on a 112 LSA. The higher lift can add a but more torque throughout the curve, maybe 7-10 Hp/Tq.
If you plan on towing and/or want to use the stock converter, I would stay at or under a 212/218 duration, as well as use a lift between .550 to .600. A 112 to 114 LSA will help keep the curve lower in the rpm range. I tried a BTR Truck Stage 3 (218/224) and the TSP 216/220, and both had a slightly noticeable lowend loss compared to stock below 2,600 rpm, but will have more power above 4500 rpm and pull to 6,500 or so. With a stock converter, a 212/218 cam is the best all around cam and about the highest duration before lowend loss will be noticeable. I was told the BTR Truck Stage 2 outperforms the stock cam (A Gen4 5.3 Cam) down to 2,000ish rpm. There may be a slight loss from 1500-2000 rpm of 5hp or so, but generally you are not below 2k rpm unless you are cruising on the highway at 65 mph, and no cam will provide better lowend under 2,000 rpm unless you go with a smaller duration than stock.
If you are pulling the heads to change lifters or something, I would go with a smaller thickness head gasket to help with quench and achieve a slightly higher compression ratio. Higher compression translates to more lowend power. Milling the heads is also another option, 10.5:1-11:1 is a good compression ratio to be at.
Last edited by 07NBSChevy; 09-19-2017 at 02:58 AM.
#29
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I run a BTR Truck Stage 2, 212/218 .553/.553 113+2 LSA, with PAC 1218 valve springs for piece of mind. Cam comes in at 2400ish RPM compared to stock and pulls to 6200 rpm. I am using this with a stock converter since I tow close to 7,000 lbs. This cam definitely added more torque for towing, around 3500 rpm-5500 rpm is where I noticed the biggest jump in power.
A cam that will provide a bit more torque than the BTR Truck Stage 2, that works with a stock converter, is the TSP 212/218 .600/.600 on a 112 LSA. The higher lift can add a but more torque throughout the curve, maybe 7-10 Hp/Tq.
If you plan on towing and/or want to use the stock converter, I would stay at or under a 212/218 duration, as well as use a lift between .550 to .600. A 112 to 114 LSA will help keep the curve lower in the rpm range. I tried a BTR Truck Stage 3 (218/224) and the TSP 216/220, and both had a slightly noticeable lowend loss compared to stock below 2,600 rpm, but will have more power above 4500 rpm and pull to 6,500 or so. With a stock converter, a 212/218 cam is the best all around cam and about the highest duration before lowend loss will be noticeable. I was told the BTR Truck Stage 2 outperforms the stock cam (A Gen4 5.3 Cam) down to 2,000ish rpm. There may be a slight loss from 1500-2000 rpm of 5hp or so, but generally you are not below 2k rpm unless you are cruising on the highway at 65 mph, and no cam will provide better lowend under 2,000 rpm unless you go with a smaller duration than stock.
If you are pulling the heads to change lifters or something, I would go with a smaller thickness head gasket to help with quench and achieve a slightly higher compression ratio. Higher compression translates to more lowend power. Milling the heads is also another option, 10.5:1-11:1 is a good compression ratio to be at.
A cam that will provide a bit more torque than the BTR Truck Stage 2, that works with a stock converter, is the TSP 212/218 .600/.600 on a 112 LSA. The higher lift can add a but more torque throughout the curve, maybe 7-10 Hp/Tq.
If you plan on towing and/or want to use the stock converter, I would stay at or under a 212/218 duration, as well as use a lift between .550 to .600. A 112 to 114 LSA will help keep the curve lower in the rpm range. I tried a BTR Truck Stage 3 (218/224) and the TSP 216/220, and both had a slightly noticeable lowend loss compared to stock below 2,600 rpm, but will have more power above 4500 rpm and pull to 6,500 or so. With a stock converter, a 212/218 cam is the best all around cam and about the highest duration before lowend loss will be noticeable. I was told the BTR Truck Stage 2 outperforms the stock cam (A Gen4 5.3 Cam) down to 2,000ish rpm. There may be a slight loss from 1500-2000 rpm of 5hp or so, but generally you are not below 2k rpm unless you are cruising on the highway at 65 mph, and no cam will provide better lowend under 2,000 rpm unless you go with a smaller duration than stock.
If you are pulling the heads to change lifters or something, I would go with a smaller thickness head gasket to help with quench and achieve a slightly higher compression ratio. Higher compression translates to more lowend power. Milling the heads is also another option, 10.5:1-11:1 is a good compression ratio to be at.
#30
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And from TSP's flow data on those heads, there is VERY LITTLE difference from Stage I to Stage 2.5. The only difference in parts is the Stage 2.5's have slightly larger valves, which the 5.3 cylinders might shroud to a degree. To me at least, the Stage I would do you the most good and save a few bucks. I would go for the PAC valve springs too.
#31
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And from TSP's flow data on those heads, there is VERY LITTLE difference from Stage I to Stage 2.5. The only difference in parts is the Stage 2.5's have slightly larger valves, which the 5.3 cylinders might shroud to a degree. To me at least, the Stage I would do you the most good and save a few bucks. I would go for the PAC valve springs too.
Last edited by 00pooterSS; 09-19-2017 at 11:57 AM.