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I'm LS/TKO 600 swapping a 69 Chevelle and need cam opinions. I've read countless threads, but still don't know. I'm putting milled 799s on and a LS6 intake on a Lq4. I want around 400rhwp and still be streetable. And keep low end torque. I was set on getting the 228r, but I'm now thinking I could go a bit bigger. Any opinions?
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With your setup and a 228r you will easily make 400 rwhp. I'm thinking more like 420 or so. Just depends on the dyno
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Originally Posted by MustangBeater20
I'm LS/TKO 600 swapping a 69 Chevelle and need cam opinions. I've read countless threads, but still don't know. I'm putting milled 799s on and a LS6 intake on a Lq4. I want around 400rhwp and still be streetable. And keep low end torque. I was set on getting the 228r, but I'm now thinking I could go a bit bigger. Any opinions?
Going bigger will cost you bottom end. 228r will be fine.
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If you want a lopey sound with good power all the way up and down, contact WS6store.com (a sponsor here) and ask about their high-lift hot cam. The specs are 219/228 @.050, .600 lift, and112LSA, which gives you -1* overlap.
The GMPP low lift (.525) version added 65HP to the LS3 to get the 480HP (later revised to 495) version of the LS3 crate motor.

edit: WS6store beat me to it! lol
re-edit; Sorry for the misspell WS6store! too early in the AM....

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Thanks.....ps its ws6store lol not ls6store...but close enough!

I didnt say our cam though. Just said the 228r would be ok but a smaller easier to drive cam would be our high lift hot cam. Few videos on YouTube already if you want some sound clips. It would be more docile to use that t56 and low rpm cruising.
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
Going bigger will cost you bottom end. 228r will be fine.
You think something like a Torquer V2 would be too large?
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Too large indeed. The mid range comes up and upper end but sacrifices low end.
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
Too large indeed. The mid range comes up and upper end but sacrifices low end.
So what would make more power? Your hotcam or the 228r?
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228r no doubt for most power.
The high lift hot cam has a nice lope at idle and would make you close to 400 on your setup with good torque also, but be easier to drive with a little better cruise manners and maybe a bit less soggy bottom end.
Our high lift asa cam would likely make more power than the 228r but would be about the same drivability so thats why i did not say that one. Has more overlap but a very aggressive idle.
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
228r no doubt for most power.
The high lift hot cam has a nice lope at idle and would make you close to 400 on your setup with good torque also, but be easier to drive with a little better cruise manners and maybe a bit less soggy bottom end.
Our high lift asa cam would likely make more power than the 228r but would be about the same drivability so thats why i did not say that one. Has more overlap but a very aggressive idle.
What are the specs on the ASA cam?
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Originally Posted by MustangBeater20
What are the specs on the ASA cam?
226/236 .600/.600 110 lsa. About 11* of overlap. Very choppy at idle even at 850rpm.
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
226/236 .600/.600 110 lsa. About 11* of overlap. Very choppy at idle even at 850rpm.
Do you have a link to it? And what do you think it would make for power on my setup? BTW thanks for the quick responses!
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Both video links are in ls1s. Link for cam kit here


Link to thread here
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
226/236 .600/.600 110 lsa. About 11* of overlap. Very choppy at idle even at 850rpm.
Mine says 227/236 .600 .600 110 lsa on the box.
Got it from you last week.
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
Mine says 227/236 .600 .600 110 lsa on the box.
Got it from you last week.
If it measures .5 degree over its rounded up to 227. The way the specs were made originally were to copy the GM cam specs @.050 and lsa as close as possible for what we were looking for. It came out as between the 2 226 and 227 but rounds up to 227.
Is there really any difference in 1* or half a degree? No.
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
Both video links are in ls1s. Link for cam kit here
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Link to thread here
Wow, that cam sounds awesome! Honestly that's a nice price for that kit! How would drivability be compared to a 228r? It's not a daily driver, but don't want a ton of cam buck or surge...
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On a stick car it may surge in the lower rpms with 3.42s in 6th. On an auto a 2600+ stall will tame it. Better with 3.73s or higher ratio though. If you have 3.73+ you likely wont have to worry much though. Tuning can take care of some but is only a bandaid for the overlap really. Youd either remove timing or add air and both arent what youd look for when purchasing a cam. Overlap sounds good at idle most of the time but youll pay in lower rpm and cruise. The 228r would have less overlap and drive better prob but not sound as aggressive at idle due to the lower overlap also. Confused yet?
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
On a stick car it may surge in the lower rpms with 3.42s in 6th. On an auto a 2600+ stall will tame it. Better with 3.73s or higher ratio though. If you have 3.73+ you likely wont have to worry much though. Tuning can take care of some but is only a bandaid for the overlap really. Youd either remove timing or add air and both arent what youd look for when purchasing a cam. Overlap sounds good at idle most of the time but youll pay in lower rpm and cruise. The 228r would have less overlap and drive better prob but not sound as aggressive at idle due to the lower overlap also. Confused yet?
Do you have any dyno numbers with this cam yet?



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