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Old 10-17-2018, 06:59 PM
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Default Cam rec for lq9 408ci with tfs 215cc heads

So after recommendations I have decided to order my shortblock from TMS. I will listthe details below of the car and components.what I would like is your suggestions and opinions as far as cam goes. TIA

TMS 408 with -15cc pistons about 10.7:1 CR with my heads
tfs 215 milled to 59cc chambers( I know I know... go with 225s, but I am going to go with these
fast 102 intake
fast 92 mm tb
1 3/4 headers w/3” collectors true dual 3” x pipe
underdrive pulley
t56 monster clutch
3300lbs car
3.70 gears mwc 9”

i was running this setup in a ls1 346 with a vrx4 cam 228/230 and made 478 and best pass of 11.1@124.
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I'd ask TMS what they think. They speced one for me when i bought their 370 LQ9
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2000ss,

ill give Dustin a call. I really liked the vengeance cam, but also heard great things about BTR and Pat G. Open to others too, just want some opinions.
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2000ss, didnt you have the tfs heads on your car too?
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No sir I have PRC 5.3 heads. The cam they did for me was a Howard's grind
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looks like what ever cam grind you have spec'd it should have gobs of torque! Gonna be hard to keep tires on it
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232/240-112+3
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I would get a custom cam from cam motion. Do you already have the tfs215's? 1 3/4 headers will hold you back as well
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Why not go for -2 dish pistons and not bother milling the heads?
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Yes, I already have the 215 and they are already milled to 59cc. I know that the 1 3/4 headers will hold me back a little, but should only be up top. Also, this set up SHOULD be temporary. I plan to eventually go turbo a few yrs down the road. Ill give cam motion a call.
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I had Pat G spec my cam for my car. Similar combo. My TFS 215’s are milled to 59cc as well then I had the chambers opened to the 4.065 bore on my ls3 Block. When I spoke to TFS they told me the 225 program is very marginal and the 215’s actually come in more around 220. They said to leave them alone.
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I would personally put a bigger head on a 408, but I do have a friend that made 500/500 with the 215's on his.
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Ls2 bait, who did you send the heads to be opened up? I ask because I asked TEA about opening mine up and they said that they cant do it.
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Jtm, if I didnt already have these I would definitely have gone bigger, bit since I already have these I dont see a point in selling them at a loss to pay another 2700 for a few more ponies. Plus, I plan to go turbo and when I do I am pulling these off and putting some stock ported heads and just turn up the boost to make for the loss of efficiency.
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Originally Posted by Jtm2085
I would personally put a bigger head on a 408, but I do have a friend that made 500/500 with the 215's on his.
My cam is 240/244 .605 .596
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Originally Posted by JP


My cam is 240/244 .605 .596
Actually a buddy of mine runs a cam with the same specs and TFS 215's and a Fast 102 in his 2000 SS. Made 502 rwhp/490 rwtq. Numbers aside the car is crazy fast
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Thanks for chiming in JP
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Jp, did you have your heads opened up to the 4” bore? I saw two other membersmaking over 520 rwhp with the 215s, but they had the chambers opened up to the 4” bore.

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Vengeance racing results with the 215s.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...s-results.html
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I think Jp's heads were originally for a 4.0+ bore



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