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xdanny510x 11-30-2018 09:15 PM

in a dilema. the cathedral vs rec heads
 
Previously had prc ls3 heads on my 408 and not sure whether to restick to ls3 headed side or switch to the cathedral side.. The motor was previously in my silverado but now its going into my firebird trans am. Im over here arguing with a buddy of mine that ls3 make more power but he says the cathedrals will be more torquey and thats what wins races. anyways from y'all experiences what type of heads will make this motor breathe and make more torque or power overall.. AS far as intake I'm pretty set on running a vic jr with 4150 tb unless y'all can steer me away from that set up.

Mavn 11-30-2018 09:24 PM

Aftermarket cathedral is better than a stock casting ls3

Stock casting ls3 is better than a stock casting cathedral

Aftermarket ls3 is most of the time better than an aftermarket cathedral

I lile cathedral heads personally .. I have cathedrals on my 416 and make a touch over 570 rwhp on motor.

but I really really want to build a stock casting ls3 headed motor to see how far I can push stock castings .. ugh

4150 on a vic jr is going to drive like shit . And not make power until 6000 rpm. Better plan on spinning 7500+
I like fast 102's. For fbodys. Highrams for trucks

NSFW 11-30-2018 09:25 PM

I dunno about the whole cathedral-vs-rectangle thing, but...

Originally Posted by xdanny510x (Post 20009724)
more torquey and thats what wins races

...that right there is bull****.

383z 11-30-2018 09:44 PM

OP, which cathedral heads will make more overall power than PRC LS3 heads?
What's the cost and is it worth it?
You would have to go very top of the line cathedrals, but why when you could go top of the line LS3?

Darth_V8r 11-30-2018 10:39 PM

And...Here...We...Go

Che70velle 11-30-2018 10:55 PM

Somebody shoot me...

SoFla01SSLookinstok 11-30-2018 11:11 PM

Cant they make a new head called catherectangular or something? The best of both worlds!

OP this is always going to be a debate. Mavns post was good. Figure what you really want & go from there. Good luck.

Ls7colorado 11-30-2018 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by Che70velle (Post 20009750)
Somebody shoot me...

I really was expecting much harsher responses to the OP than what im seeing, LOL

G Atsma 11-30-2018 11:15 PM

In line with this site's penchant for sticking "Related Threads" on the tails of newer threads, this one ought to have about a dozen of them tagging on...

big hammer 11-30-2018 11:25 PM

More torque wins races sure as long as it happens higher in the RPM range so it turns into HP. If you already have PRC ls3 there’s no point in going backwards

big hammer 11-30-2018 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by Mavn (Post 20009727)
Aftermarket cathedral is better than a stock casting ls3

Stock casting ls3 is better than a stock casting cathedral

Aftermarket ls3 is most of the time better than an aftermarket cathedral

I lile cathedral heads personally .. I have cathedrals on my 416 and make a touch over 570 rwhp on motor.

but I really really want to build a stock casting ls3 headed motor to see how far I can push stock castings .. ugh

4150 on a vic jr is going to drive like shit . And not make power until 6000 rpm. Better plan on spinning 7500+
I like fast 102's. For fbodys. Highrams for trucks

heres your Stock headed ls3 benchmark lol

https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/s...90hp+ls3&amp=1

SoFla01SSLookinstok 11-30-2018 11:31 PM

Ok hamski. I could post some race motors with cath heads making bad ass power. Lol.

big hammer 11-30-2018 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok (Post 20009765)
Ok hamski. I could post some race motors with cath heads making bad ass power. Lol.

of course you can/ but ultimately the fastest Ls have rectangles, NA or boosted

SoFla01SSLookinstok 11-30-2018 11:36 PM

So I guess what you're trying to say is if you put rectangles on you'll be the fastest?

big hammer 11-30-2018 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok (Post 20009767)
So I guess what you're trying to say is if you put rectangles on you'll be the fastest?

yes Cathy Newman

Darth_V8r 11-30-2018 11:46 PM

Fastest LS has LS7 style heads

Darth_V8r 11-30-2018 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
Cant they make a new head called catherectangular or something? The best of both worlds!

OP this is always going to be a debate. Mavns post was good. Figure what you really want & go from there. Good luck.

I totally call the rights to -- Squathedral!

bammax 11-30-2018 11:51 PM

Rectangular shift the powerband to the right which is good for max effort cars. Cathedral shift the powerband to the left which is good for street cars. A street/strip car can use either and which ever you choose will be wrong if you post about it on here.

Torque does win races if you have a heavy car on an 1/8 mile track. A light car on a 1/4 mile wants more top end. A mid-weight car that runs both can use either and which ever you choose will be wrong if you post about it on here.

SoFla01SSLookinstok 12-01-2018 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by big hammer (Post 20009769)


yes Cathy Newman

10/4 Squary Fairy! Lol.


Originally Posted by Darth_V8r (Post 20009773)
I totally call the rights to -- Squathedral!

Going to get the patent going! Lol.


Originally Posted by bammax (Post 20009774)
Rectangular shift the powerband to the right which is good for max effort cars. Cathedral shift the powerband to the left which is good for street cars. A street/strip car can use either and which ever you choose will be wrong if you post about it on here.

Torque does win races if you have a heavy car on an 1/8 mile track. A light car on a 1/4 mile wants more top end. A mid-weight car that runs both can use either and which ever you choose will be wrong if you post about it on here.

Lol.

NSFW 12-01-2018 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by Darth_V8r (Post 20009773)
I totally call the rights to -- Squathedral!

I bet the SQTHDRL license plate is still available in all 50 states. For now.


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