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Old 12-25-2018, 09:29 AM
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Default Testing out all of the new summit pro cams ? Any interest to see results ?

As most of you know I installed the SUM-8715 stage 1 ghost cam in my trans am, now I'm curious if anyone (including summit racing) would be interested in seeing more tests with the rest of the line up. My car is very easy to change cams in, as I already have .660 duals, LS7 lifters, no a/c on it, etc .. and I can hop on the same dyno any time I need to. My tuner enjoys this kind of stuff and would have no problems making rips on a couple different cams if there was enough interest in seeing how they all do.


What cams would you like to see tested if I were to do this and why? Any other cams/parts you'd like to see tested?

just let me know what you think!

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Mavn, if your game, I’d love to see the results.
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I was wondering if the guy that designed the cams was from the ohio store or one of the other summit stores
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Originally Posted by sbdgbody
I was wondering if the guy that designed the cams was from the ohio store or one of the other summit stores
I THINK they worked with Cam Motion to design their cams. Or Texas Speed. One or the other.
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
I THINK they worked with Cam Motion to design their cams. Or Texas Speed. One or the other.
the cam did not look like a TSP cam at all. I've seen hundreds of TSP cams and it was not the same looking .

I'm feeling cam motion.
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I would like to see more, but the stage 1 is probably the max for me, for my requirements of a street cam.

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Originally Posted by Stampede4ever
I would like to see more, but the stage 1 is probably the max for me, for my requirements of a street cam.

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What are the specs on that one? I’m not wanting a very big cam either. Was pretty set on the WS6 high lift hot cam.
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Originally Posted by 99Silver6.0


What are the specs on that one? I’m not wanting a very big cam either. Was pretty set on the WS6 high lift hot cam.
SUM-8715

it's in my car .I have a huge build thread on it in this sub forum
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Originally Posted by Mavn
SUM-8715

it's in my car .I have a huge build thread on it in this sub forum
Ah, I see it now. I was getting caught up on different Summit part numbers.
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I've been keepin an eye on the thread.. I know its apples to oranges but I'd like to see how the 218/227 truck came does for my single cab
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Hi Mavn, we like the upgrade path you've taken so far. All fairly standard and not in left field. Meaning the results you get could be duplicated by others. We like the idea of one dyno, one tuner, and your driveline combo is solid now. Also Idle KPA at 900 and idle vids would be good for our customers too. Track times and video always great with a full-weight car.

We have a call into TEA to get the valve drop numbers of a 243/799 head @ 65cc, then milled .030 and 60cc with a 2.040 valve. We'd also get their 61cc 706/862 61cc heads with bigger valves ...then milled again .030. Some of them won't be back until Wednesday the 2nd, but we should be able to get you an answer around then. Our Pro LS Stage 4 SUM-8709 was at .061/.092 with .047 piston to head and .128 intake valve drop (unmilled LS3 head with 5k miles) against a true flat top piston at a valve angle of 15 degrees. We'd think that one would require flycutting, but would like to know if (or the SUM-8708 Pro LS Stage 3) would cause any issues. Our two rectangle port cams are ground a little differently for more clearance, but we'll get into those later.

The truck swap cams were designed around their intakes, weight, converters, upgrade path, a lot of 5.3's out there, and wanting to maintain part throttle efficiency. With those different considerations, we'd want to stick with the automotive cams in this round if it comes to pass. Thanks and we'll be in contact as soon as we've heard from TEA.
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Originally Posted by Summitracing
Hi Mavn, we like the upgrade path you've taken so far. All fairly standard and not in left field. Meaning the results you get could be duplicated by others. We like the idea of one dyno, one tuner, and your driveline combo is solid now. Also Idle KPA at 900 and idle vids would be good for our customers too. Track times and video always great with a full-weight car.

We have a call into TEA to get the valve drop numbers of a 243/799 head @ 65cc, then milled .030 and 60cc with a 2.040 valve. We'd also get their 61cc 706/862 61cc heads with bigger valves ...then milled again .030. Some of them won't be back until Wednesday the 2nd, but we should be able to get you an answer around then. Our Pro LS Stage 4 SUM-8709 was at .061/.092 with .047 piston to head and .128 intake valve drop (unmilled LS3 head with 5k miles) against a true flat top piston at a valve angle of 15 degrees. We'd think that one would require flycutting, but would like to know if (or the SUM-8708 Pro LS Stage 3) would cause any issues. Our two rectangle port cams are ground a little differently for more clearance, but we'll get into those later.

The truck swap cams were designed around their intakes, weight, converters, upgrade path, a lot of 5.3's out there, and wanting to maintain part throttle efficiency. With those different considerations, we'd want to stick with the automotive cams in this round if it comes to pass. Thanks and we'll be in contact as soon as we've heard from TEA.
Hey I appreciate it!
My TEA 5.3 heads are milled .015

Hope you hear from TEA Soon !

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This could get interesting.
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Uhhhh most definitely, yes
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This sounds fantastic. Very interested.

A+ idea Mavn!
A+ Summit & TEA !
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
This sounds fantastic. Very interested.

A+ idea Mavn!
A+ Summit & TEA !
Thanks!

hopefully summit hears back next week . I should have my true duals in tomorrow and I try to get them on this weekend!
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Originally Posted by 99Silver6.0


What are the specs on that one? I’m not wanting a very big cam either. Was pretty set on the WS6 high lift hot cam.
hmm. Also has me interested. Wonder how it works on a stock head/intake ls1 vs the ws6store hotcam. It's got quite a bit more duration. I'd be curious to know the benefits if any. Works with a stock converter too.
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Originally Posted by Mavn
SUM-8715

it's in my car .I have a huge build thread on it in this sub forum
Just looked it up so you don't need to-
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