Lq9 .40 over build questions!
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Lq9 .40 over build questions!
Have a lq9 block bored .40 over and have some questions. Could i get away with running heads off a 4.8 or 5.3 with aftermarket springs, rockers, push rods etc and a 228 cam or should i go bigger/smaller? Would like to make 400 wheel hp. Or should i build a 4.8 that i can ****** up for cheap? What could i do to that to make around 350 to 400 wheel hp?
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For that engine I would look for a set of 243/799 heads. They came on most if not all 4.8/5.3 Gen IV engines, so are easy to find.
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The lq9 isnt assembled got it in pieces. Just block pistons/rods and a cam. If i get a set of heads you mentioned should i put different springs/pushrods/rockers in them or not even bother? Just trying to get opinions on parts right now so when i do have the money to spend i wont waste any time lol. What about 400 with a 4.8 n/a?
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The lq9 isnt assembled got it in pieces. Just block pistons/rods and a cam. If i get a set of heads you mentioned should i put different springs/pushrods/rockers in them or not even bother? Just trying to get opinions on parts right now so when i do have the money to spend i wont waste any time lol. What about 400 with a 4.8 n/a?
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...oducts_id=8670
Id get something along the lines of that cam/springs and you will want to add hardened pushrods
A rocker arm truniuon upgrade would be a good idea but not 100% necessary with that cam
Not to sure about a 4.8 build, I dont see why you couldnt get 350rwhp out of one someone else might can comment on that
whats it going in? what are you gonna be doing with it? What transmission?
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Welcome to the site Bubba, what vehicle will this engine build be powering ? If it is a heavier type vehicle I would go with the 6.0l for the bigger torque numbers. What will be the vehicles main purpose ? Agreed with G Atsma and LS7colorado about the 243/799 heads. Yes for aftermarket valve springs, Stock rockers are very good just replace the stock needle bearings for trunion bushings and measure for the correct pushrod length after you have the heads reworked, choose which lifters and the head gasket thickness you are going to use.
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Are the pistons flat tops?
To give you some ideas
With 61 cc heads (706 or 862) you'd be at 11.77:1 compression with flat top pistons and GM gaskets that measure out at .052. With ws6store .045 gaskets you'd be at 12.0:1
With 64.5 cc 243/799 heads you'd be at 11.25 with the same head gaskets. With ws6store .045 gaskets you'd be at 11.46:1
You'll need to run premium fuel for all the above
And those numbers are using 0.006 piston out of the hole. That can range a little but not much. If they were another .002 out (0.08 total) compression would go up .06
As for which trans, it would be easier to go auto and be faster, but the standard would be more fun to just drive. Well... that's personal preference, I like stick cars to drive and autos at the track. And the better these autos get and the older I get the less I care about a standard anyway.
To give you some ideas
With 61 cc heads (706 or 862) you'd be at 11.77:1 compression with flat top pistons and GM gaskets that measure out at .052. With ws6store .045 gaskets you'd be at 12.0:1
With 64.5 cc 243/799 heads you'd be at 11.25 with the same head gaskets. With ws6store .045 gaskets you'd be at 11.46:1
You'll need to run premium fuel for all the above
And those numbers are using 0.006 piston out of the hole. That can range a little but not much. If they were another .002 out (0.08 total) compression would go up .06
As for which trans, it would be easier to go auto and be faster, but the standard would be more fun to just drive. Well... that's personal preference, I like stick cars to drive and autos at the track. And the better these autos get and the older I get the less I care about a standard anyway.
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https://sandiegoengineparts.com/prod...at-top-1000600
shows that as a flat top it does have valve reliefs
shows that as a flat top it does have valve reliefs
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The 3.3 cc for valve reliefs drops compression .4 so apply that to the above numbers.
All my compression numbers are from Summit compression calculator if anyone is wondering
With the 243's and .045 head gaskets you'd have .037-.039 quench height and 11.0:1 compression. That would make for a really nice setup and the reduced quench would help with ping. Be a fun motor. You could go higher on compression but 11:1 is a pretty good all around number for a street car.
All my compression numbers are from Summit compression calculator if anyone is wondering
With the 243's and .045 head gaskets you'd have .037-.039 quench height and 11.0:1 compression. That would make for a really nice setup and the reduced quench would help with ping. Be a fun motor. You could go higher on compression but 11:1 is a pretty good all around number for a street car.