6.0 LS3 heads, Considering new truck cam, suggestions?
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Cam Motion should answer this but until then, consider this one from them- LS3 Stage I Camshaft: 212/222, 116 LSA, .553/.553. I think this will work because of the LS3 heads you are using, which like more duration split than cathedrals. It should idle very smooth (-15 degrees overlap) and give a lot more torque and horsepower throughout the range.
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thanks again G Atsma, very sound suggestion there, and im definitely considering that cam as a possibility. I was just interested to see if they would also render an opinion and back it up with a bit of reasoning. thanks everyone for all the info so far, im very pleased with the reaction this thread has gotten.
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hey Cam Motion! do you have a suggestion on which of your truck cams youd choose for a LS3 headed stock 6.0L in a heavy truck [stock converter]?
truck sees limited use now, occasionally tows, 90% highway driving on asphalt %10 pulling out stuck friends, and off-roading.
ive lost my taste for lumpy idles, don't care what it sounds like now as long as there is lots of low and midrange torque.
truck sees limited use now, occasionally tows, 90% highway driving on asphalt %10 pulling out stuck friends, and off-roading.
ive lost my taste for lumpy idles, don't care what it sounds like now as long as there is lots of low and midrange torque.
http://www.cammotion.com/camshafts/6...204-212-116-4/
This camshaft will be a very nice horsepower upgrade while still maintaining the off-idle and low speed torque needed for towing.
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thanks again G Atsma, very sound suggestion there, and im definitely considering that cam as a possibility. I was just interested to see if they would also render an opinion and back it up with a bit of reasoning. thanks everyone for all the info so far, im very pleased with the reaction this thread has gotten.
Plus it looks like Cam Motion recommends an even milder version which should still do what you want.
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Summit, I have been all over various forums creeping for information on your smaller 8718 and 8719 cams. I've been on the fence between the two for my 6.0 swap z71. Some of Summit's posts insinuates these cams were developed in house on dynos. Could we see some dyno graphs verses an lq9/ls1 or similar cam to see where the gains are in the rpm range? Please??
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My 6.0 swap 2001 1500 z71 is the racecar hauler. 10.3CR, 799 heads, longtube headers, no cats, low restriction inlet and exhaust. No need for high rpm hp or hp past the peak. It needs to make peak hp at 5500-5800 and be done before 6000 for the shift. No need for extra exhaust duration to make it carry hp over 6000. I would like ALL the torque possible between 3000 and 5500.
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I don’t think you can go wrong with the summit cam for the price. Worst case pull it and try another one. With out them trying your particular engine build a dyno won’t be an accurate test for you. I can assure you each of their cams has an accurate description of rpm range so you know what you’ll get. Towing a car hauler id recommend the 8718. I’ve tuned in the stage 2 truck cam as well which is a fun cam that allows a healthy mid and very strong top end but probably wouldn’t be best for a towing application. It’s a somewhat healthy cam. My setup is somewhat similar to yours with 10:5:1 compression ratio and 862 heads on 6.0. Just pull the trigger man you won’t regret it.
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would seeing an overall number like say 40 horsepower make you happy? With the truck it’s a little more about useable power throughout the curve. I don’t think many companies post dyno graphs for truck cams but i could be wrong. At least I didn’t see any in my research. I compared specs and emailed a few companies with questions and even asked for a dyno graph from crane and was told that they don’t provide that info. I settled on summit for the price and all the info they posted up about it and they always seem to chime in here if anyone has questions. A few buddies and I were looking into renting a dyno for a Saturday morning sometime if we end up doing it I’ll post up the graph. Also one of their cams a friend installed I believe it was the 8701 underneath the summit sticker there was an elgin one.
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Summit, I have been all over various forums creeping for information on your smaller 8718 and 8719 cams. I've been on the fence between the two for my 6.0 swap z71. Some of Summit's posts insinuates these cams were developed in house on dynos. Could we see some dyno graphs verses an lq9/ls1 or similar cam to see where the gains are in the rpm range? Please??
Did you sign up here just to troll Summit?
Rhetorical question btw
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Actually, if information was available in a format such as this......
https://markenperformance.com/n-8673-crane-cams-direct-fit-cams-for-ls-stock-oe-valve-trains-4-8l-to-6l.html
.....I would buy a summit cam right now.
https://markenperformance.com/n-8673-crane-cams-direct-fit-cams-for-ls-stock-oe-valve-trains-4-8l-to-6l.html
.....I would buy a summit cam right now.
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Actually, if information was available in a format such as this......
https://markenperformance.com/n-8673...-8l-to-6l.html
.....I would buy a summit cam right now.
https://markenperformance.com/n-8673...-8l-to-6l.html
.....I would buy a summit cam right now.
BTW Crane didn't have those dyno tests until a while after their cams came out. Summit's cams are fairly new yet.
Also, those tests don't indicate whether the test engines were Gen III (small heads) or Gen IV (243/799 heads). BIG difference there, and different cam conditions.
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Hello there. The lobes were developed by a designer of over twenty years. Valve event timing was determined by our own experienced team based on several years of data on multiple platforms on a chasssis dyno. We have employees running them to in their own vehicles.
We have two engine dynos, but Chassis dyno numbers from third parties (our customers) is what people trust and relate to anyway. The cams will do the talking for us.
Kyle brings up a good point though. These came out on Independence Day and we heavily encourage customers who've installed and ran them to leave reviews (holding the parts in their hands, power, times, driveability). It helps other customers form their own decisions.
We have two engine dynos, but Chassis dyno numbers from third parties (our customers) is what people trust and relate to anyway. The cams will do the talking for us.
Kyle brings up a good point though. These came out on Independence Day and we heavily encourage customers who've installed and ran them to leave reviews (holding the parts in their hands, power, times, driveability). It helps other customers form their own decisions.
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Ok the crane camshaft with similar specs sells for 400 bucks. Summit stage 1 is 259. My experience with them as a professional mechanic and a mildly experienced tuner has been great. At nearly half the price of their competition it’s a no brainer in my opinion. Hopefully I can post dyno info soon.
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You'll be happy with them Andy. It's important to remember that the reason we can price them where we do is because of the run size volumes we do. You're getting a ton of quality (better in most cases) than cams that sell for over $100 more.
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Originally Posted by kylemilligan
My 6.0 swap 2001 1500 z71 is the racecar hauler. 10.3CR, 799 heads, longtube headers, no cats, low restriction inlet and exhaust. No need for high rpm hp or hp past the peak. It needs to make peak hp at 5500-5800 and be done before 6000 for the shift. No need for extra exhaust duration to make it carry hp over 6000. I would like ALL the torque possible between 3000 and 5500.