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Old 10-29-2004, 01:46 PM
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Default T-Rex v.2 vs. G5X-3 vs. Magic stick 3

All 3 cams have different specs, so one has to be better than the other and there has to be a best. I dont know much about the Magic stick 3, but obviously this cam is recommended if you wanna hit 10s N/A cam only. All 3 cams can be a "good" choice, but what would be the best choice? Are the G5X-3 specs still unknown? Do any of these cams have to be retarded or advanced, or do you install them straight up? I wanna pick the right cam because I dont plan on changing cams again until I do a heads and cam package. I know all these cams are close, but which one is going to give me the best chance at hitting 10s? By the way, is there any difference between the cams the way they behave in normal driving? Thanks.

T-Rex v.2 242/248 .608/.612 110 LSA 3500-6700 rpm power band $429.99

G5X-3 2XX/2XX .600/.610 112 or 114 LSA $449.00

Magic stick v.3 (MS3) 237/242 .603/.609 113 LSA $399.99

Why on the G5X-3 do they offer 2 different LSAs? On the Magic stick 3, why did they go with an odd ball 113 LSA? If the 3 cams are all made the same, why are they all different prices?
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Originally Posted by BlackBeaSSt
All 3 cams have different specs, so one has to be better than the other and there has to be a best. I dont know much about the Magic stick 3, but obviously this cam is recommended if you wanna hit 10s N/A cam only. All 3 cams can be a "good" choice, but what would be the best choice? Are the G5X-3 specs still unknown? Do any of these cams have to be retarded or advanced, or do you install them straight up? I wanna pick the right cam because I dont plan on changing cams again until I do a heads and cam package. I know all these cams are close, but which one is going to give me the best chance at hitting 10s? By the way, is there any difference between the cams the way they behave in normal driving? Thanks.

T-Rex v.2 242/248 .608/.612 110 LSA 3500-6700 rpm power band $429.99

G5X-3 2XX/2XX .600/.610 112 or 114 LSA $449.00

Magic stick v.3 (MS3) 237/242 .603/.609 113 LSA $399.99

Why on the G5X-3 do they offer 2 different LSAs? On the Magic stick 3, why did they go with an odd ball 113 LSA? If the 3 cams are all made the same, why are they all different prices?
As far as the specs go I am not educated enough to say which is best. As far as the price goes, it is obvious why the G5 is highest. Anything that has LG on its label means is consistantly worth 10-20% more than a like product. I still oogle at what you can buy a SBC cam for, compared to those prices, $100 versus $400+

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Well a sbc roller is still 220-250 and 300 for a crane cam usually, we cant compare flat tappet to roller now. beside how many of the old sbc's are there around. I think the pricing is right on.
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BTW T-rex for pure track power.
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T-Rex is biggest with the fastest lobes. It has the most valve area under the curve while still not requiring piston flycuts. If max ET is your goal, then this is your cam.

FWIW, any of the 3 cams listed will hit the 10s as long as your weight is low and you have the right combination of parts. Once you go this big, there is diminishing returns. There's not a tenth of ET difference between these 3 cams IMO. The G5X3 will be the most streetable. If your goal is dual purpose (street/strip), then pick the G5X3. If your goal is purely speed and damn the torpedos, then go for the T-Rex.

Like I said, all 3 will get you 10s. Pick one.
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I have never seen any dyno graphs but i love the TSP MS.


EDIT...Sorry i ment to say the other 2. I have seen one on the Magic Stick, and it put out great # under the curve. I dont know about the rest.
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Originally Posted by hellbents10
BTW T-rex for pure track power.
Also, people reported less gas mileage with the trex cam. I feel like a weenie for bringing it up. The reason I do is that the cam I have didnt effect mileage at all.

I dont think Id have a problem daily driving the trex cam but would get sick of the gas mileage.
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I street my trex every day. I love it. Generally you can say that the higher the LSA the better (less choppy) it idles. My trex is on a 109. The trex will make the most power, then the GX, and then the MS.
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I Completely disagree with that post.

I seriously doubt the MS3 would make the least power of the 3 cams.
The ms3 was designed to create big power while offering good driveability. The 113 lobe seperation not only helps idle, it also helps piston to valve clearance. All three are great camshafts, but stating the MS3 would make the least power of the three is far from correct. IMHO

Here's a dyno graph from a recent CUSTOMERS car that made pretty good power from a MS3
http://www.texas-speed.com/images/ms3.jpg

Peaks by 6400-6500 rpm
GOOD piston to valve clearance
113 lobe seperation that helps daily driveability & P/V

All & all I agree with Patrick G, there's probably not a tenth of difference between the camshafts on a all out setup. You can't really go wrong with any of the camshafts your talking about

What we should really be talking about is how often you use the car, what size converter, goals for the car...etc... That's the best way to pick which camshaft is for you.
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I meant no disrespect to you, your company or your cam. You make great products and I will continue to buy from TSP. I agree when you say all three cams are great cams but let me get this straight. Your saying that I can swap the MS3 out with my TRex and get more power...?
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Well I dont use the car very much because its always down because Im always making changes. My goal for the car is 10s, but I wanna go as fast as I can with stock heads, stock bottom end, naturally aspirated. I want a cam for these (my) mods:

Fast Toys ram air kit
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Granatelli MAF
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LS6 intake manifold
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Kooks 1 3/4" stainless steel long tube headers
Custom 3" true duals w/Dynomax bullets dumped
ASP underdrive crank pulley
Meziere electric water pump
MTI C2 cam (224/.581/112)
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