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AVB May 11, 2005 01:16 PM

Replace Valve seals.. what's involved?
 
Is this something that can be replaced fairly easily once I get the springs off?

jrp May 11, 2005 01:29 PM

yes, some pliers is all thats needed to remove them.

blkZ28spt May 11, 2005 02:03 PM

VERY easily. Once the springs are off you just pull on the valve seals with some pliers (or something similer), then replace with the new ones. I don't know what the difference is, but pay attention to whether the new ones are black or brown and get them on the right valve.

NVE THIS May 11, 2005 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
VERY easily. Once the springs are off you just pull on the valve seals with some pliers (or something similer), then replace with the new ones. I don't know what the difference is, but pay attention to whether the new ones are black or brown and get them on the right valve.

I had posted a question asking if the valve seals are the same and someone told me they were. I called FMS because I just ordered a cam and upgrade kit and they informed me that the manufacturers at GM designed two seals (hense the black and brown) the brown withstand higher heat than the black seals because they are on the exhaust valve. If you order replacement seals, I would recomend getting all brown (higher heat threshold) seals. That's what I have.

Cal May 11, 2005 05:21 PM

There are also two types of valve stem seals; the two piece and one piece. The one piece design has the seal built into the spring shim. I would stay away from that type.

blkZ28spt May 11, 2005 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by NVE THIS
I had posted a question asking if the valve seals are the same and someone told me they were. I called FMS because I just ordered a cam and upgrade kit and they informed me that the manufacturers at GM designed two seals (hense the black and brown) the brown withstand higher heat than the black seals because they are on the exhaust valve. If you order replacement seals, I would recomend getting all brown (higher heat threshold) seals. That's what I have.

Is that so? Interesting...

joshp14 May 12, 2005 12:14 AM

The PRC Kit that I just received had all brown seals in it...thats quite interesting though.

The install is smooth, make sure you have a way to hold the valves up when removing the springs. I used a deep 12mm 3/8" socket and a small ball-peen hammer to drive the new seals on...slightly lubed with fresh engine oil. No problems at all.

SideStep Jun 5, 2005 12:56 AM

Good info...

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TNormZ28 Jun 5, 2005 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by SideStep
Good info...

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Yes it is... Brown = exhaust, black = intake, and make sure you dip them in oil before you slip them into position. Also, if you plan on getting AFR heads then you need thier "valve guide seals" because stockers will not work. You would think that if someone bought over 10K in heads from them they would tell you that but NO... Oh well you are the lucky ones to learn from others experience.

SideStep Jun 5, 2005 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by TNorman
Yes it is... Brown = exhaust, black = intake, and make sure you dip them in oil before you slip them into position. Also, if you plan on getting AFR heads then you need thier "valve guide seals" because stockers will not work. You would think that if someone bought over 10K in heads from them they would tell you that but NO... Oh well you are the lucky ones to learn from others experience.


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Thanks for that info!!! I am replacing mine (seals) in two weeks, removing springs to shim a little. I did order the seals from AFR, but still good to know your experience.

:cheers:


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