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1-Quik-LS1 Jan 21, 2007 04:19 PM

Tapping over 3k RPM's
 
well i have a 98 Z28 Camaro (LS1 of course) and for some reason just this morning when i rev/ or drive over 3,000 Rpm's i get a tapping noise? at idle there is no knocking or tapping, but only at 3k? what is this and what can be done i hope its not to serious??? please help me out with this im not the Internal genius.....
~thanks anthony

1-Quik-LS1 Jan 21, 2007 04:54 PM

TTT help

1-Quik-LS1 Jan 21, 2007 05:59 PM

TTT again i need answers

brad8266 Jan 21, 2007 06:01 PM

bent pushrod maybe. When was your last oil change?

1-Quik-LS1 Jan 21, 2007 06:10 PM

im 200 miles over an oil change theres no way thats the case, i also have weak oil pressure

brad8266 Jan 21, 2007 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by 1-Quik-LS1
im 200 miles over an oil change theres no way thats the case, i also have weak oil pressure

The weak oil PSI is not good, dont drive the car until you get it fixed. Is it leaking oil from anywhere? If it isnt leaking your oil pump may be going or you may be having bearing issues in the rotating assy. Do not drive it until you figure it out. Tapping and low oil PSI are indications of bearing failure or stretched rod bolts, which will result in you tearing the engine apart to replace, which in that case you may as well do a full rebuild.

1-Quik-LS1 Jan 21, 2007 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by brad8266
the weak oil PSI is not good, dont drive the car until you get it fixed. Is it leaking oil from anywhere? If it isnt leaking your oil pump may be going or you may be having bearing issues in the rotating assy. Do not drive it until you figure it out. tapping and low oil PSI are indications of bearing failure.

i was at my friends house and let the car sit for an hour or so ... no leaking anywhere on his driveway, ill have to get it checked out tomorrow, what is the WORSE and LEAST case scenario ???

brad8266 Jan 21, 2007 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by 1-Quik-LS1
i was at my friends house and let the car sit for an hour or so ... no leaking anywhere on his driveway, ill have to get it checked out tomorrow, what is the WORSE and LEAST case scenario ???

I edited my post.

Worst case you rebuild the the bottom end, might as well go forged if your in there. Best case you just swap oil pumps.

1-Quik-LS1 Jan 21, 2007 06:23 PM

is a rebuilt even worth it?? should i just buy another ls1??

brad8266 Jan 21, 2007 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by 1-Quik-LS1
is a rebuilt even worth it?? should i just buy another ls1??

Its worth it as long as you dont drive it and destroy the block first. Hone cylinders, keep stock crank, buy forged pistons and rings, rods, rod bolts, head gaskets, and a new set of crank and rod bearings. Thats pretty much your basic forged 347 righ there. Might as well cam it while your at it and do heads if you got some more $$.

Find out what your problem is first though.

1-Quik-LS1 Jan 21, 2007 06:34 PM

ill find out tomorrow and ill get back to ya, thanks for the help

1-Quik-LS1 Jan 22, 2007 08:58 AM

well i found out i spun a bearing... so this means a complete rebuild or new engine any out put on what might be cheaper?

brad8266 Jan 22, 2007 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by 1-Quik-LS1
well i found out i spun a bearing... so this means a complete rebuild or new engine any out put on what might be cheaper?

You can just replace the bearings for cheap, but you might as well go for a forged motor. You can get a TSP short block for a good price, but it will be cheaper for you to build the current block up with forged parts yourself. It depends if you want to rebuild it yourself or not. Good luck with it.

1999ssls1 Jan 23, 2007 09:35 PM

How did you find out you spun a bearing?

brad8266 Jan 23, 2007 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by 1999ssls1
How did you find out you spun a bearing?

Usually when the oil PSI drops suddenly is either a bearing or the pump gone bad.

To actually see if its a spun bearing youre gonna have to pull the motor and tear it down. Pretty much time for a new forged shortblock since your in there anyway. It could very well just be your pump if you still have the old 98 pump in there, but with the tick noise id be worried.

1999ssls1 Jan 23, 2007 09:44 PM

Arent there rivets holding the oil pan on?

1999ssls1 Jan 23, 2007 09:46 PM

Could the tune have anything to do with it?

brad8266 Jan 23, 2007 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by 1999ssls1
Arent there rivets holding the oil pan on?

No its held by bolts and then the oil pan gasket is held to the pan by 1 or 2 rivets.

1-Quik-LS1 Jan 24, 2007 06:44 PM

well the car is being worked on now its a spun bearing due to oil issues.. not sure how just high RPM never help!

BLKWS.6 Jan 24, 2007 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by 1-Quik-LS1
well the car is being worked on now its a spun bearing due to oil issues.. not sure how just high RPM never help!


What oil were you running? weight/brand? Was your oil level full? Any idea HOW you spun it?


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