2000SS

heys guys,

i just put a set of stage2 gtp heads on my car two weeks ago and it is smoking blue smoke and burning oil.i was told that sometimes you have to put thread sealant on the intake rocker bolts,well i did that wednesday and its still doing it. the car has a b1 cam in it and all the bolts ons. any suggestions would be wonderful!!!valve seals, or what there brand new?

thanks,
wayne

<small>[ May 03, 2002, 04:41 PM: Message edited by: 2000SS ]</small>

LS1derfull

Are you sure you have driven it enough to burn off all the stuff that may have collected in you exhaust during head swap?tHERE REALLY SHOULDNT BE ANY REASON FOR MOTOR TO START USING OIL, have you modded pcv system?

2000SS

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LS1derfull:
<strong>Are you sure you have driven it enough to burn off all the stuff that may have collected in you exhaust during head swap?tHERE REALLY SHOULDNT BE ANY REASON FOR MOTOR TO START USING OIL, have you modded pcv system?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">well ive only put about twenty miles on it since i put the thread sealant on it. yes i have modded my pcv system.

DaddySS

There are many things that will cause smoke. Does it smoke all the time, or just on decelleration? Does the smoke smell like oil or antifreeze, how long have you had it running since you did the job? Pull the plugs, do any of them look wet?

Raughammer

Wayne.... we need more info brah!

Help us help you. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

WHEN does it smoke?

2000SS

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DaddySS:
<strong>There are many things that will cause smoke. Does it smoke all the time, or just on decelleration? Does the smoke smell like oil or antifreeze, how long have you had it running since you did the job? Pull the plugs, do any of them look wet?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">no it smokes on crank up and when its idling in the drive way and when your at a light or in traffic, you can see it, also yess you can smell oil. i installed the heads on april 10th, so its almost been about a month. i havent pulled the plugs yet.

thanks
wayne

2000SS

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Raughammer:
<strong>Wayne.... we need more info brah!

Help us help you. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

WHEN does it smoke?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">john i posted when its smoking!!1

thanks
wayne

2000SS

ttt

Chris Spiess

Pull the plugs and see if you can isolate a cylinder that may be causing the problem. Nobody has mentioned valve seals yet.

98blackSS

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LS1derfull:
<strong>Are you sure you have driven it enough to burn off all the stuff that may have collected in you exhaust during head swap?tHERE REALLY SHOULDNT BE ANY REASON FOR MOTOR TO START USING OIL, have you modded pcv system?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll never get over this no matter how many times I mod my car. I freak out every time I see smoke on the initial warm up.. and then realize it's just the crap burning off my headers. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

2000SS

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Chris Spiess:
<strong>Pull the plugs and see if you can isolate a cylinder that may be causing the problem. Nobody has mentioned valve seals yet.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">im pulling the plugs out on thursday
when we change the valve seals!!!

Ebbsnflows

iTrader: (15)

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000SS:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Chris Spiess:
<strong>Pull the plugs and see if you can isolate a cylinder that may be causing the problem. Nobody has mentioned valve seals yet.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">im pulling the plugs out on thursday
when we change the valve seals!!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Keep us updated if the new valve seals fix it. I've got GTP heads as well, and it smokes at start up only. I figure it is a valve seal as well.

2000SS

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ebbsnflows:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000SS:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Chris Spiess:
<strong>Pull the plugs and see if you can isolate a cylinder that may be causing the problem. Nobody has mentioned valve seals yet.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">im pulling the plugs out on thursday
when we change the valve seals!!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Keep us updated if the new valve seals fix it. I've got GTP heads as well, and it smokes at start up only. I figure it is a valve seal as well.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ill let you know when i change the valve seals,
mine smokes when its idling in the drive way,not bad but you can see it.

thanks
wayne

Raughammer

Well, i just dont want to beleive you have broken a ring land or cracked a piston at the same time as the new heads went on. You dont use nitrous and havent revved the crap out of the car....so. What has changed?

THE HEADS.

Either your valve guides have too much clearance, you have poor valve guides ( i know you are trying a different set seals...what is this, the third?)
Dont let anyone tell you it's because you have too much vaccum...thats hog wash.

Now you could have a hole in the heads casting or some other such problem... but those are pretty rare. (they do happen)

Do all the plugs look the same? Take them out and number them and let us know....sorry i have been out of touch.

JC