Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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3,250 miles, majority highway driving...14,500 miles at time of oil change on my 2001 GMC truck with the 5.3L The analysis was done by Terry @ Dyson Analysis.

Results (ppm/%) Comment

Wear

Copper 66 elevated, new break in wear

Iron 6

Chromium 0

Lead 9

Aluminum 4

Silicon 12

Tin 1

Additives

Molybdenum 52 normal for castrol

Sodium 0

Magnesium 6

Zinc 883

Potassium 6

Phosphorus 787

Calcium 1740

Physical Properties

Water negative

Fuel negative

Antifreeze negative

Soot 0

Oxidation 17 scale 0-199 divide by 2 to compare ,very low

Nitration 27 scale 0-199 divide by 2 to compare ,very low

Sulfur 34 fuel, not a key value,compare to later results

TBN 5

vis@100C 11.7 30w

Final Comments: Trevor, very good results . No comment indicates a normal reading. Let me know if you have any issues with GM engine “knock” especially as the copper drops. Very clean burning engine based on low OXD and NOX. Contact me for any clarification or questions.

Patman

As I mentioned on Bob's site, this sample looks better than a recent 10w30 Syntec analysis!

It also proves that the 3k oil change interval is a thing of the past, this oil would easily make it to 5k, it's in great shape still.

XLR8NSS

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Patman(Oil Guru) - Any thoughts on the new Mobil 1 SuperSyn.

I just put it in my 79,000 mile 5.3L truck. I used the 10W30. I usually run my oil around 5,000 miles or so since I do so much highway driving.

Good or Bad

Where can I send an oil sample to be tested?

Thanks oh Oil Guru. <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

John

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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Patman - I totally agree. I was VERY pleased with the results! I went ahead and put Redline synthetic in since I get a nice price on it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I'm going to pull a sample of the Redline out at 5,000-5,500 miles. If it looks good, then I'll just leave it in. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

John - Contact Terry Dyson for an analysis. It's $25 ($27.06 if in TX), and it's worth its weight in gold IMO. This is the true test of which oil is better. You can contact Terry at (903)883-4661 or tdyson@argontech.net.

Trevor

GREGGO

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Nice to know. Will he do tranny fluid ? I have some before and after samples of my tranny flush and would like to see the diff.

Greg

Brandon Boomhauer

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is the gtx just a regular oil?

and can you swap back and forth between a regular oil and synthetic? im runnin mobile 1 10w30, and have heard i couldnt go back (no intentions to, i might have to send some off to see how it looks....)

Patman

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by XLR8NSS:
<strong>Patman(Oil Guru) - Any thoughts on the new Mobil 1 SuperSyn.



</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've started seeing a few oil analysis results on the new stuff and it's turned out to be a very good oil after all! I think the first batches of SuperSyn didn't have it, but the recent ones have moly in it! Moly is an awesome antiwear additive.

Also, you can easily go longer then 5k on M1 if you do mostly highway.

And Brandon, you can safely switch back and forth to and from synthetic at any time without a problem.

Speed Demon

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Final Comments: Trevor, very good results . No comment indicates a normal reading. Let me know if you have any issues with GM engine “knock” especially as the copper drops. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Can someone explain this.... "knock" esp. as the copper drops.

Black Sunshine/ 00SS

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After breaking in my new cam, I just put the new Mobil 1 in there, after using Royal Purple for a long time.

The reason being, because since I did the head & cam in April. I have had the low oil light come on twice. I know I'm supposed to check the oil level, on a regular basis. I do, esp when I go racing. I did not check it as often on regular street driving. Still, there is no excuse for it dropping that low.

So I'm going to try this new Mobil out.

To you oil experts.. How often should I change the oil, when I am using nitrous? If it must be changed often, then would I be better off using plain dino? What is the best dino? Thanks.

CamaroSS_2002

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Is there a website that someone here has that contains info on all oils? or as they come?

<small>[ August 27, 2002, 11:17 AM: Message edited by: CamaroSS_2002 ]</small>

TA_2001

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Black Sunshine/ 00SS:
<strong>After breaking in my new cam, I just put the new Mobil 1 in there, after using Royal Purple for a long time.

The reason being, because since I did the head & cam in April. I have had the low oil light come on twice. I know I'm supposed to check the oil level, on a regular basis. I do, esp when I go racing. I did not check it as often on regular street driving. Still, there is no excuse for it dropping that low.

So I'm going to try this new Mobil out.

To you oil experts.. How often should I change the oil, when I am using nitrous? If it must be changed often, then would I be better off using plain dino? What is the best dino? Thanks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I change my dino oil out before it gets dark,
normally about 1700-1900 miles..
I use castol 10-30w ( north texas ).
car has 20K and never had dirty oil in it ever.
<img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />

Patman

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by CamaroSS_2002:
<strong>Is there a website that someone here has that contains info on all oils? or as they come?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Check out www.bobistheoilguy.com, as well as the message board he's got too:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php

BurnOut

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Patman:
<strong>As I mentioned on Bob's site, this sample looks better than a recent 10w30 Syntec analysis!

It also proves that the 3k oil change interval is a thing of the past, this oil would easily make it to 5k, it's in great shape still.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not so sure about this "extended oil change interval" thing. I am absolutely fanatical about the "blood" in my motor, so I feel that the traditional 3k interval is cheap insurance. Just my $.02...

PiP

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I'm not so sure about this "extended oil change interval" thing </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, then don't try an extended interval.
With oil being a non-renewable resource, I think the least I can do is actually use my oil "up" and not change it just because that is what we "used to do."

All of the tests and data point to the fact that extended oil changes do no harm. (obviously there is a limit on the just what constitutes "extended".

I change my oil once every 5K, and all my oil samples have come back fine.

PiP

Patman

For those of you that think the 3k oil change is absolutely needed, check out Bob's message board that I posted above. There are a lot of oil analysis results on there where the oil isn't even close to worn out yet at 5k, 6k, and beyond. And there is very little contaminents in it too. Oils are better, engines are better, filters are better, so why stick to the old 3k interval that was dreamed up 20 years ago, and nowadays is only held onto as a cash cow for oil makers and Jiffy Lube?

Orange Krush

Well said Pat ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

TomQ

i wouldn't change my oil every 3k or even earlier if it wouldn't get dirty for some odd reason. I do mostly street driving in San Francisco and close to afetr 2k miles oil becomes dark, dirty, i have no damn idea why

and yes, i was really pleased with Castrol GTX, even it is justa regular oil.

Diesel

Trevor D, Patman....very informative thread. Thanks!

Nine Ball

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I've only used Castrol GTX for the last 3 years. I know a few 8-second car/engine builders that recommended it, and it was good enough for their cars.

-Tony

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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Eyeballing an oil isn't going to tell you how well it's standing up after xxxx amount of miles. Just because the oil is darker does not mean that it's time to pull it out. The oil in my truck was quite a bit darker than when it was new, but this analysis shows that it could've gone quite a bit longer!