Pulley's being a bitch...
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Metal shrinks if cold. Pulley hole will shrink if frozen so it will be harder to put on.
Never hammer on the pulley, it is like hammering on the crank.
Never hammer on the pulley, it is like hammering on the crank.
-Dan
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^^^ This guy is amusing. Yeah it hits when you shift but the force is completely the other way, when you shift you apply ROTATIONAL force, when you hammer on it you are applying LINEAR HORIZONTAL force. Two different things.
There is no need to bang hard on a balancer with a hammer, just tap it on a little bit to hold it and then use a bolt to push it on. My March pulley went on easily at room temp.
There is no need to bang hard on a balancer with a hammer, just tap it on a little bit to hold it and then use a bolt to push it on. My March pulley went on easily at room temp.
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Dan, some us here are pretty good with technical stuff (some are even engineers (who me?)). Don't be offended or too close minded about things.
METAL THERMALLY EXPANDS- when you add heat it will increase about it's critical dimension, that might be length, inside diameter, etc.
Maybe you're confused because water expands when it shifts phases (when it's cold)? I don't know.
Also, you have a bearing surface to absorb any kind of axial loading along the crank. It does that, but is not intended to be hammered on. That'll catch up with you, and should be avoided unless it's more practical for you to rebuild often (maybe this is a race motor).
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METAL THERMALLY EXPANDS- when you add heat it will increase about it's critical dimension, that might be length, inside diameter, etc.
Maybe you're confused because water expands when it shifts phases (when it's cold)? I don't know.
Also, you have a bearing surface to absorb any kind of axial loading along the crank. It does that, but is not intended to be hammered on. That'll catch up with you, and should be avoided unless it's more practical for you to rebuild often (maybe this is a race motor).
Ben T.
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Also, there are even factors that you can multiply to actually calculate how much somethign will expand / or how much heat you'd have to apply to reach a certain dimension.
This might be a good read,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeffic...rmal_expansion
(Cliff notes; If it's too much info for you- just read the 3rd sentence).
Ben T.
This might be a good read,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeffic...rmal_expansion
(Cliff notes; If it's too much info for you- just read the 3rd sentence).
Ben T.
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Originally Posted by 01LS6SS
Your correctly WRONG! Correct, Metal does shrink when cold!!! The hole in the pulley gets larger because the metal retracts into itself. AND...the block of wood absorbs the hammering effect on the crank...I hammer on my crank everytime I shift! Think about the hit a crank takes when you shift to 2nd and the rpm's drop from 6000K plus to about 3500 in under a second!!! These things arent as fragile as people think.
-Dan
-Dan
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Did you use dial calipers and check the crank and the pully? Sometimes you have to hone the pully to make it fit properly. If you have a interferance large enough heating the pully all day wont do anything for you but ruin it. check the ID of the pully and the OD of the crank to make sure within tolerance. You should have a spec sheet with your pully with the correct tolerances or check the manufactures website.
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Originally Posted by 01LS6SS
Your correctly WRONG! Correct, Metal does shrink when cold!!! The hole in the pulley gets larger because the metal retracts into itself...
-Dan
-Dan
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Originally Posted by tuffass
I've been heating this damn thing in the oven for almost an hour off and on between 200-250* and it wont even slightly go onto the crankshaft. I even heated it w/ a blow torch for about 5 minutes and tried and NODDA damn thing!
Am I doing something wrong here?
I do have a longer lont but I dont have a large enough washer for it that will grip the pulley...
I now have the oven at 300* and have been heating for about 12 minutes. Just tried again and stil wont budge.
Am I doing something wrong here?
I do have a longer lont but I dont have a large enough washer for it that will grip the pulley...
I now have the oven at 300* and have been heating for about 12 minutes. Just tried again and stil wont budge.
Assuming you have the right pulley, just take the time to get a threaded rod, nuts (3) and washers (2) and pull it on, you do not want to damage the pulley or crank by taking a short cut on this step.
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Originally Posted by dub.ya.es.SICK
this is RIDICULOUS! just put the dang pully on this isnt hard to do! thread closed.....cmon people
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If that doesn't work, try:
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Dan, some us here are pretty good with technical stuff (some are even engineers (who me?)). Don't be offended or too close minded about things.
Ben T.
Ben T.
-Dan
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Originally Posted by brad8266
^^^ This guy is amusing. Yeah it hits when you shift but the force is completely the other way, when you shift you apply ROTATIONAL force, when you hammer on it you are applying LINEAR HORIZONTAL force. Two different things.
There is no need to bang hard on a balancer with a hammer, just tap it on a little bit to hold it and then use a bolt to push it on. My March pulley went on easily at room temp.
There is no need to bang hard on a balancer with a hammer, just tap it on a little bit to hold it and then use a bolt to push it on. My March pulley went on easily at room temp.
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I just bought a used ASP underdrive pulley. The surface on the inside of the pulley hole is very rough(looks like it has deep scratches in it.Will this give me problems when I try to install it? Does this surface need to be smooth?
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Sometimes powerbond pulleys are too tight and need to be honed,but only a titty hair.
As for the cold/hot thing. It is better to heat the pulley to 250-280 degree's for a slip fit type of install. Freezing it makes the hole smaller. I've tested it before with measurements and everything to the same pulley.
As for the cold/hot thing. It is better to heat the pulley to 250-280 degree's for a slip fit type of install. Freezing it makes the hole smaller. I've tested it before with measurements and everything to the same pulley.