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Old 10-07-2007, 05:50 PM
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Default AFR 205 vs TSP 5.3 2.5 & fast 90/90

AFR 205 59cc, g5x3 114 (already in car), .040 cosmetic, flycut

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TSP 5.3 2.5 heads, g5x3 114, whatever head gasket needed to not flycut, and a fast 90/90 set up

Keep in mind that I am also running a 100 wet shot of nitrous. What are some pros and cons to each ? Im having a tough time deciding what I want to do, mainly Im trying to talk myself out of flycutting pistons. School me.......
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How can you compare a truck head with a custom casting? Now if you want to compare apples to apples how about TSPs Terminators against the AFRs. You get what you pay for.
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Well assuming the FAST won't be on the AFR heads i would go with the 5.3 + FAST. Just me.
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Im not comparing which head will be better. Im talking about the power of the whole set up. I know that the AFR set up will produce great numbers will power under the curve but what about the 2nd set up ? How do you guys think it will work ?
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Even though the AFR setup isn't running the FAST 90 (assuming it's running the LS6), i still think it has the upper hand over the 5.3's. That cam will compliment you either way (more so with AFR's flow numbers though i would think).
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Not having to flycut the pistons , buy ETP 215cc 11* degree valve angle heads .
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Im leaning towards the TSP Heads and FAST90/90
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i wish i had the fast 90mm on my AFR 205`s.
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Anyone else have any imput on this
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Originally Posted by 02blackbeauty19
Im leaning towards the TSP Heads and FAST90/90
This ones a 112 G5x3 , the 114 should have slightly more p/v clearance . Any way the budget heads made strong power and backed it up in trap speeds , corrected the fellas car run around 11.43 @ 125mph N/A with 3.42's probably near full weight , F-body 3,500lbs {without driver} .
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/712347-prc-stage-2-5-5-3-heads-488-rwhp-428-rwtq.html
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I say use 205's not because I have them. I had TEA 5.3's on there before. The aftermarket castings are a lot stronger than stock castings. Meaning they have more material on the deck surface and they can be ported a little further if you ever step up to a little bit bigger CI motor.

My 5.3's had a crack in them when I bought them and they did not catch it the first time I sent them to TEA to be checked out. So it cost me in the long run. I had to take a loss on them and go for the better heads. I was spraying a 150shot on the car also.

The stronger heads will be more reliable for the juice.
Also mine were 58cc's and I used a stock size gasket and had to fly cut a lot. I had the same cam.It was on a 114+4 lsa.

Power wise, I think they will be about the same. But you gain durability!

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I say get the AFR's now if you can afford them, you can always get the FAST 90/90 later. I will be getting the PRC's myself but AFR's aren't an option for me.
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Originally Posted by JRracing
I say use 205's not because I have them. I had TEA 5.3's on there before. The aftermarket castings are a lot stronger than stock castings. Meaning they have more material on the deck surface and they can be ported a little further if you ever step up to a little bit bigger CI motor.

My 5.3's had a crack in them when I bought them and they did not catch it the first time I sent them to TEA to be checked out. So it cost me in the long run. I had to take a loss on them and go for the better heads. I was spraying a 150shot on the car also.

The stronger heads will be more reliable for the juice.
Also mine were 58cc's and I used a stock size gasket and had to fly cut a lot. It was on a 114+4 lsa.

Power wise, I think they will be about the same. But you gain durability!
Good point
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