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Old 11-30-2007, 11:28 PM
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Ok The Motor Is Back Apart Valve Cover Of I Mean . And On The Drivers Side There Are 2 Pushrods That Are Tightend All The Way Down But Have A Ton Of Play In Them .100 One Intake And One Exhaust. They Are The Ls7 Lifters Do You Thinkn One Of These Collasped. I Am At A Lost Jason Said He Would Send Me Out A Smaller Cam 224 /228 To See If That Would Help Piston To Valve Clearance As The Set Now The Ptv Is.007 Intake And Exhaust. The Cam In There Now Is 231 / 234 . So Much For My 430 Hp With Ls6 Heads Stg 2.5. Any Ideas?
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If the Pushrods are all the same length then there are 2 things it could be: 1- The lifters 2- The cam. That's it, I would pull out one of the pushrods that seems to be fitting right and measure it compared to the one that isn't. If that's not it then your going to have to start digging. Check the cam first and then you get to go after them lifters. Have fun and I hope you get it fixed.
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your ptv is not going to be the same on both intake and exhaust. how are you checking it anyways? are you using the soft spring method or clay? what was your wipe pattern and geometry like, when you mocked it all up? tell me your set up, and i see what i think might be wrong.
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I am using the tsp ls6 stg 2.5 heads with 202 157 valves. 64 cc Tourqer v 3 cam shaft stock head gaskets and 7.4 length pushrods with ls7 lifters. We used the soft spring method to check ptv .
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Originally Posted by Jrp1978
I am using the tsp ls6 stg 2.5 heads with 202 157 valves. 64 cc Tourqer v 3 cam shaft stock head gaskets and 7.4 length pushrods with ls7 lifters. We used the soft spring method to check ptv .
have the heads been milled?
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Did you pull the pushrods out to see if they are bent?
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tsp says no on the milling and no the pushrods are not bent.
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Originally Posted by Jrp1978
tsp says no on the milling and no the pushrods are not bent.
no milling of the heads. hmm? honestly, no offense i would say something in your set ups wrong or you did not check ptv correctly. That cam with those heads should clear fine, especially on the exhaust side, with the intake being a little tight. what do the TSP guys say? I've done alot of h/c swaps with lots of milling, and by the looks of your combo, you should be fine, unless i'm missing something somewhere in your combo. Question for you: when you use the soft spring method, make sure there is no preload(valve spring not compressed) when the valves are closed, you just need to turn the rocker bolt untill 0 lash, you know when you are the, because rocker gets tight and just starts to depress valve,(but don't depress it) just turn it so all lash is takin away. check exh. 10* BTDC, and int. 10* ATDC, during overlap cycle.
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The machine shop next to pdr auto is who came over and did the check . Why would there be two loose rocker arms . And why was i able to drive fot 20 miles with it purring like a kitten and them bam all the sudden this happens?
Is it at all possible that this cam is off somehow? i mean i want this combo bad i dont want to go down in cam size at all. Also when they where turning the motor over with valve covers off is it normal for the valves to snap like that is that something i higher lift cam does?
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Originally Posted by Jrp1978
The machine shop next to pdr auto is who came over and did the check . Why would there be two loose rocker arms . And why was i able to drive fot 20 miles with it purring like a kitten and them bam all the sudden this happens?
Is it at all possible that this cam is off somehow? i mean i want this combo bad i dont want to go down in cam size at all. Also when they where turning the motor over with valve covers off is it normal for the valves to snap like that is that something i higher lift cam does?
2 bad lifters maybe? valves close rapidly, due to cam/ramp profile(it's normal). are they int. or exh. rockers that are loose? bolts come loose? wait, when they checked ptv, did they use your LS7 lifters or solid lifters?
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They use the ls7 lifter. Could something just up and happen to the cam ?
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1 intake and one exh. There where side by side. #1 intake and #3 ex both were loose as hell. .100 play and the rest of the rockers move side to side fairly easy is that normal?
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Originally Posted by Jrp1978
1 intake and one exh. There where side by side. #1 intake and #3 ex both were loose as hell. .100 play and the rest of the rockers move side to side fairly easy is that normal?
where they the valves that your machine shop buddy checked ptv with?
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Originally Posted by Jrp1978
They use the ls7 lifter. Could something just up and happen to the cam ?
doubt it.
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The checked different ones
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.007 is like 2 peice's of paper thickness. that can not be right. .07 but not.007 def something wrong




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