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Edfirebird68 Dec 31, 2007 07:03 PM

Won't EVER do this AGAIN! SUCKS!!!!
 
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Ummmm. From now on degree Wheel and preliminary hand rotation!
EEK!
anyone use these yet?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H-BEA...mZ260126062683

ZZebes Dec 31, 2007 07:06 PM

There has to be pictures before comment can be given

Edfirebird68 Dec 31, 2007 07:13 PM

P.S. Do not try this at your place. It is not good.....
HTH!
Eddie:bang:

GMmexican Dec 31, 2007 07:14 PM

what happend?

99mongooSS Dec 31, 2007 07:15 PM

ouch!

Edfirebird68 Dec 31, 2007 07:31 PM

:DI am a shmuck.... I went dot to dot on a new cam TR224/224 563 563 112 and ti retain comp 918's new ported pump and well no degwheel and assumed the smaller lift / straight up would fine. ASSuME'd p2v well guess I am gonna make more than just the 75 I was initally gonna go for HAHAHA
gonna do a bit more than anticipated... just hoping the sleve is still workable got a scratch in it but my machinist is DA MAN!!!
Nicks machine in South River NJ. He is the #1 Bulgarian nutty professor . Only machine shop you can find him 4-4 pm 2 am and eat off his floor b/c he is so meticulous... Love that Guy he's always happy to see me and feels my pain hahaha. I almost think he does not like to take my cabbage. He even told me before I married my ex. "Eddie I do not know if your father told yopu this so I will... Don't marry her b/c she's older which means she will be 1. Uglier sooner, 2. Grumpier Sooner, 3.All mine! HAHAHA! " You gotta find a nice much younger chick.
I'll get a pic of the scratch it catches my finger nail.
Anyone got specs for what I can SAFELYaka Daily Beater/ Every light is my qtr mile!
Reliabile over bore for a 01 LS1 346 factory sleve spec?
Thanks bro's
Happy New YEAR! I am gonna go get me some beverages to fill my belly!
BE back in 20 min w the bore pic too!
Till Then........:D:flipbird::headbang::shiner::naughty ::twisted::givesfuck:thefinger:smokin::corn::drive ::pimp:

lowbirdws6 Dec 31, 2007 08:30 PM

sorry to see
 
I just installed that exact cam straight up as you did, everything went well for me, you might double check your springs, ret. and locks. That sucks, I feel for you. I hope you get it up and runnin' soon, good luck!!!

SOMbitch Dec 31, 2007 10:38 PM

Sounds like you got a great outllok on it man. Every F' up is just an opportunity. If My H/C install goes like that though I'll be driving the pick-up for a while. Better luck on your new build!

Still don't understand how that happened with a 224?????

quick346 Dec 31, 2007 10:41 PM

I ran the same cam with 1.75 pro mag's and 59cc afr's and had .100/.135 ptvc well mine was on a 114 but can't see it hitting. must have been off a dot.

You should not even have to flycut with a 224. even with a .040 gasket

What kind of chain and gears do you have? had to have been put in wrong or had a spring break.

its turbo time Dec 31, 2007 10:52 PM

am i hallucinating or did edfirebird vote on every one of the options as well as bmxer?

quick346 Dec 31, 2007 11:06 PM

Maybe there should be one more option in the poll for poppen a hole in your'e piston with a 224 cam:confused:

Looked at the pics one more time. You can see all the intake's hit. they are shined up at the top.

that cam was def installed wrong. even on a 112 prob still on a 110 ICL so the only thing would be tighter from a 114 would be ex and i had .135 ex with 59cc afr's

massls1guy Dec 31, 2007 11:35 PM

is this just an ad for a non sposor?

01FbTaWs6 Jan 1, 2008 12:19 AM

sure is. I caught that also. Did you by chance install the cam 180 out??? :)

JudgeGuns Jan 1, 2008 02:11 AM


Originally Posted by 01FbTaWs6 (Post 8400606)
sure is. I caught that also. Did you by chance install the cam 180 out??? :)

thats my vote...you can run em up to 4 degrees off and they don't hit :D

eallanboggs Jan 1, 2008 04:03 AM

So, it's the cams fault?

forcd ind Jan 1, 2008 06:58 AM

always ck everything-always (did i mention always) to error is human
before you pull it comp apart, see where things went wrong, if the cam gears matched up, correct dots, how much lifter preload, spring tension, etc-it would be good to find out what exactly happened, esp if others ran the same setup without a prop.-no shame in a mistake, i make them all the time, i just dont learn from mine-lol

streetlegalls1 Jan 1, 2008 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Edfirebird68 (Post 8399573)
Ummmm. From now on degree Wheel and preliminary hand rotation!
EEK!
anyone use these yet?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H-BEA...mZ260126062683

Hate to see hard work turn into carnage.The on line parts:pistons=good,rods=wind chimes.

Edfirebird68 Jan 1, 2008 10:43 AM

How about these rods?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS1-S...QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks
Ed

Damian Jan 1, 2008 01:55 PM

You lined the cam up wrong. I did this once before a long time ago on accident (worked a 12 hr shift then came home trying to build motors at 4am), and did the same exact thing. If you lined it up "dot to dot", there is no way that would have happened with a 224 cam. You could mill your heads .065 and it still wouldn't do that with a 224 cam if installed correctly.

Would definately have the block checked out by a machine shop that knows LS1's specifically.

5.3LJimmy Jan 1, 2008 02:08 PM

The max bore for stock LS1 block is 3.905. That gives .007 to clear the scratch, and that's not much(only .0035 per side). And that first ebay link says the piston rod combo is for a 4" stroke(Stock is 3.622). I would start by letting your machinist look at the block. If he says it's no good you will be better off buying a new forged short block.


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