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Old 01-31-2008, 09:21 PM
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If you spray a motor making 450hp with a 100 you would make 550hp and over 600 easy. N2O creates lots of tq. Keep that in mind
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yea spraying would be bad.. just get a custom h/c setup for high rpm power. fyi u might want to look at some engine work too so it can sustain high rpm. it shouldnt be to big of a deal since the engine isnt in a car.
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Originally Posted by fuzzyjk
What is the cost to do a cam swap with Springs and rods?
$700-$750 range for parts if you do the labor. Search our sponsers and get a package for the best deal.

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A spray of 100 HP. How much would that increase the TQ. What Cam/head combo would you recommend? Were would I find a cam package with everything already packaged to work together?

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Originally Posted by 93redBIRDman
wtf? you dont want torque?? Umm do you not want to get up and go fast or what??
Hayabusa's don't have much torque, all top end. Wanna race?

I think a super lightweight, high winding screamer is awesome.
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Originally Posted by troopercar
Hayabusa's don't have much torque, all top end. Wanna race?

I think a super lightweight, high winding screamer is awesome.
Would be a fun ride.
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how much would a GTM cost? total cost?
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nothing is as fun as loads and loads of torque.
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Originally Posted by Johny GTO
nothing is as fun as loads and loads of torque.
That's why dumptrucks are so much fun.
low-end torque is important, but in a very lightweight car, horspower that builds steadily as it revs high is more driveable.

Indycars are not known for stump-pulling torque down low. You're spouting crap as if the hemi cuda is the fastest thing ever made.
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I have a hellion cam on stock heads and that is right around 400rwhp370rwtq with the supporting add-ons. You should definitely check it out. Its powerband starts right around 3300rpm and it just lights up from there. here is a link and they can def hook you up with a deal.


http://www.neweraperformanceparts.com/default.asp?S=503&A=E&PKV=fthelcamfb|0
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Just put a MS4 or a T-rex cam in it... that will get you the hp you want and the revs, 7k+, and wont have a **** load of torque
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Like the dump truck quote! The GTM completed will cost me around 75K. I have heard some costing over 6 figures. I will look into those cams.
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Originally Posted by troopercar
Hayabusa's don't have much torque, all top end. Wanna race?
This may be the best comment yet in the endless torque versus horsepower debate.
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How far along is your GTM?? Care to post pics??
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Originally Posted by Gary Z
This may be the best comment yet in the endless torque versus horsepower debate.
Actually Hayabusa's make excellent torque compared to the smaller displacement bikes. It is designed for more straight line than them after all...

To the OP Take a look at my sig. If you were to swap out the LS6 style stage II's for maybe a stage III you would get some more top end powah. A Trex or MS4 would put you well well over that HP figure with heads and they both like to rev really high. I would do some looking through the sponsors then ask pat G if you need something a little special. He knows his stuff.
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Originally Posted by FMX05
Actually Hayabusa's make excellent torque compared to the smaller displacement bikes. It is designed for more straight line than them after all...

Well, I don't have a GSX-R1000, but a friend of mine does and he'll race you, too.
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I am not building the GTM myself, I am paying to have it built for me. I will be glad to post pics as I get them. I know of a 2004 ZO6 with stock heads, a MS3 and yellow springs that is producing 434 RWHP = around 512 @ crank. My engine is a 2001 LS1 what do I need to do to get this engine to sing like that? Oh and by the way, I have a liter go fast bike and if the seat of the pants is right I am not sure any bike will keep up without an expert rider. There is no tire spin as the engine sits on the drive wheels (335/19/35) and the drive lose is "I Believe under 9%". If I was to have 512 @ the crank your looking at high 10's. I believe the 2003 GSX-R1000 runs low 10's so without the perfect launch the bike would lose. Now that said as finances come avaliable I will slap on a STS turbo at the tune of 10K (installed) pushing near 700Hp now the bike wouldn't even be close. I would need to upgrade the trans at the tune of about 5K as well. Total investment around 90K for a GM's version of the S7. Power to weight would be 3.21 to 1. Bring on the bikes!

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To put this in perspective it would take about 1100Hp in a 3400lbs Camaro to perform at the same level.
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fuzzy, the offer was to race the "torque monsters", not you.

I was reffering to the bikes and indycars as examples of low torque, high rpm screamers that are fast. I like the idea of a lightweight, high winding screamer.

Oh, and both bikes are nowhere near stock, so I was kinda putting up a ringer. hehe
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I have read that the 2001 LS1 produces around 305 RWHP. I have also read the 2002 on z06 is 350-365 rwhp. Will the cam alone raise the power 45-60 Hp? I was thinking a smaller cam TR224 or a cheaTR. The patriot heads seem to be a bargin, am I missing something with threse heads? Will I need to do heads to get the disired results?


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