What times from AFR 205's?
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I am just wrapping up my AFR 205 59cc install with a new 224°/230° XFI lobe on 111°+1°. It will be a little while before I get it tuned, since I am still pretty green with HP Tuners.
Don't worry about what times other people are running. If you make the power (and you will make nice numbers with that combo) and you can hook it with a suitable stall speed and gears, then the ET will be there for you.
Don't worry about what times other people are running. If you make the power (and you will make nice numbers with that combo) and you can hook it with a suitable stall speed and gears, then the ET will be there for you.
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From doing days of searching...its seems like ported stock 241 GM heads with small
cams are running better times than with the AFR's with small cams. And when i say small i dont mean 224/228 cams...thats not small....208 duration thats small...224 cams are mid-sized.
But the cam i'm looking at is a Comp LSK 218/224. And its looking like stock ported 241's
are more than holding their own. Actually i've seen stock 243 heads unported do great with small cams...Like the corvette Zo6 for instance 243 heads and 204 cam. please someone post AFR's with a cam 220*'s or less that runs 11.7's please.
cams are running better times than with the AFR's with small cams. And when i say small i dont mean 224/228 cams...thats not small....208 duration thats small...224 cams are mid-sized.
But the cam i'm looking at is a Comp LSK 218/224. And its looking like stock ported 241's
are more than holding their own. Actually i've seen stock 243 heads unported do great with small cams...Like the corvette Zo6 for instance 243 heads and 204 cam. please someone post AFR's with a cam 220*'s or less that runs 11.7's please.
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^^cause i'm gonna be mostly street use only..i dont care about big cams. Plus i'm in NJ
so th sniffer is an issue here. Plus i wat to build a torque monster...216, 218 cams do that
much better. In the past theres been a ton of small cams and poerted stock heads running
good times, but are a monster.with my prvious setup if i got out ahead of someone on a street race or drag race they couldn't run me down cause i had the tq to launch the car hard.
so th sniffer is an issue here. Plus i wat to build a torque monster...216, 218 cams do that
much better. In the past theres been a ton of small cams and poerted stock heads running
good times, but are a monster.with my prvious setup if i got out ahead of someone on a street race or drag race they couldn't run me down cause i had the tq to launch the car hard.
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Dennis, with new tuning these days, you can get a 224/228 cam in a set of milled AFR's to idle at 750rpm without a problem, and the car will make sick torque down low all day long.
PM Tony Mamo from this site, he's AFR's rep and talk to him about what you are looking for and I'm sure he'll be able to help you out.
B-Las
PM Tony Mamo from this site, he's AFR's rep and talk to him about what you are looking for and I'm sure he'll be able to help you out.
B-Las
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Dennis, with new tuning these days, you can get a 224/228 cam in a set of milled AFR's to idle at 750rpm without a problem, and the car will make sick torque down low all day long.
PM Tony Mamo from this site, he's AFR's rep and talk to him about what you are looking for and I'm sure he'll be able to help you out.
B-Las
PM Tony Mamo from this site, he's AFR's rep and talk to him about what you are looking for and I'm sure he'll be able to help you out.
B-Las
224/228 is GREAT cam for AFR's
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Dennis, with new tuning these days, you can get a 224/228 cam in a set of milled AFR's to idle at 750rpm without a problem, and the car will make sick torque down low all day long.
PM Tony Mamo from this site, he's AFR's rep and talk to him about what you are looking for and I'm sure he'll be able to help you out.
B-Las
PM Tony Mamo from this site, he's AFR's rep and talk to him about what you are looking for and I'm sure he'll be able to help you out.
B-Las
PS- NJ doesnt do sniffer tests on cars newer than 1996. they use OBD testing only. I passed with my Vette. No check engine lites
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Dennis, with new tuning these days, you can get a 224/228 cam in a set of milled AFR's to idle at 750rpm without a problem, and the car will make sick torque down low all day long.
PM Tony Mamo from this site, he's AFR's rep and talk to him about what you are looking for and I'm sure he'll be able to help you out.
B-Las
PM Tony Mamo from this site, he's AFR's rep and talk to him about what you are looking for and I'm sure he'll be able to help you out.
B-Las
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I more interested in 1/4 times with smaller cams with the AFR's only. I dont need heads if i want to run a 228 or 232 cam i would just stay cam only, thats
proved to be a potent way to go, but i'm looking for the small heads and a small cam to help me run what i used to run or better, and my old setup didn't have any special suspension setup, most of it was GM stuff. I would feel better if i saw someone post that they run AFR's, a 220/220 cam no higher, with fully bolt ons run at least 11.7's in full weight and at 115mph or alittle better, thats all i want..i know i can run this cam or that cam but i want to run my cam.
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I agree, the AFR 224/228@114 is the smallest matching cam to the AFRs. Thats what you want to do, match the heads with a cam. any smaller profile and your leaving alot of power on the table. i can daily drive my car if I wanted to.
PS- NJ doesnt do sniffer tests on cars newer than 1996. they use OBD testing only. I passed with my Vette. No check engine lites
PS- NJ doesnt do sniffer tests on cars newer than 1996. they use OBD testing only. I passed with my Vette. No check engine lites
Thats great to know...do you have any times with your setup?
I had another conversation with another guy about sniffer test in NJ. Ever time i took my WS6 they did the OBD2 port test BUT they also still used the probe in my Borla and the screen showed PASS and that was the sniffer test. But since i had a small cam i passes, and then they checked the OBD2 port and that passed. But i still got the tail pipe test and i was surprised they did it..lol.
So i thought it was a fluke. So i bought a 2002 Camaro SS A4 with 2009 original miles on it
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I personally ran a 12.7@116, on 19" CCW 505s, street tires, launched at idle, bad wheel hop. that was before FAST90 and 4.10s as you can tell, not the best setup and driver skill for the 1/4. i cant afford to break **** so i keep it on the street and I road race now.
oh and those guys at the dmv was just playing with you. even if it failed the sniffer they cant do **** about it because they did a test that is not necessary. i would have laughed at him if he failed my car with a probe and say shut up and give me my 2 year sticker.![Grin](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_grin.gif)
oh and those guys at the dmv was just playing with you. even if it failed the sniffer they cant do **** about it because they did a test that is not necessary. i would have laughed at him if he failed my car with a probe and say shut up and give me my 2 year sticker.
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Thats great to know...do you have any times with your setup?
I had another conversation with another guy about sniffer test in NJ. Ever time i took my WS6 they did the OBD2 port test BUT they also still used the probe in my Borla and the screen showed PASS and that was the sniffer test. But since i had a small cam i passes, and then they checked the OBD2 port and that passed. But i still got the tail pipe test and i was surprised they did it..lol.
So i thought it was a fluke. So i bought a 2002 Camaro SS A4 with 2009 original miles on it
I love it, but check this out...i had to get it inspected, no big deal...so the guy that usually tells ya to go wait in that little booth they have...lol. But was talking about how nice the car was, blah, blah...so he runs the OBD2 test that was OK...then he pulls the probe out...and i asked him if they still do that, and he said they sometimes do.lol. WhaT???? i Guess cause it was a sports car , i dont know but whatever.
I had another conversation with another guy about sniffer test in NJ. Ever time i took my WS6 they did the OBD2 port test BUT they also still used the probe in my Borla and the screen showed PASS and that was the sniffer test. But since i had a small cam i passes, and then they checked the OBD2 port and that passed. But i still got the tail pipe test and i was surprised they did it..lol.
So i thought it was a fluke. So i bought a 2002 Camaro SS A4 with 2009 original miles on it
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^^yeah there's ways around sniffers...lol. Like going to a shop that only does the roller test and OBD2 test
I just did a search on AFR 205's with a 224/228 cam in a 3570lbs
vetter and it ran 11.20's!!! Now thats what i'm talking about
And he used a Vig3200, the same stall i got....YESSSS!!! I'm getting there now
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vetter and it ran 11.20's!!! Now thats what i'm talking about
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Well there is a good cam that i like that SPeed, Inc sells...it the 222/228 cam ..i like that one. I know that works great and idles nice in a A4 and tunes in real nice...ANd its on a 115lsa even better for the A4
I think i'm ready....now the blower kit has too go away now
Oh well...
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Your killing yourself and others reading this....LOL
Four years ago I spent a week on the dyno optimizing smaller street friendly camshafts with our AFR 205 heads.
The 224/228 is in my opinion the best "all around" cam you will find and coupled with our heads and the typical host of complimenting bolts on's (headers, FAST intake possibly, UD pulley, EWP, etc. etc,), it will net you a very powerful and street friendly set-up.
It will run the number and give you the low end torque you seek as well as near stock driving manners (good fuel economy as well if you keep your foot out of it). In my PM I mentioned a 220/224 cam because that was alot better than alot of the smaller cams you seemed to be enamored with, but honestly the 224/228 grind myself and many others after me have ran has proven itself time and time again.
Your not reinventing the wheel here....just following in the footsteps of others with tried and true proven combinations.
If your still really hesitant on moving forward before you do a thing try to track down someone local with a similar combo so you can experience it perhaps. Hit the local cruise nights and ask around....guaranteed someone has a similar package they would love to let you check out and possibly take you for a ride in....most people are pretty cool about having the opportunity to show off the stuff they are proud of.
Good luck....feel free to call me as I suggested
Tony
Four years ago I spent a week on the dyno optimizing smaller street friendly camshafts with our AFR 205 heads.
The 224/228 is in my opinion the best "all around" cam you will find and coupled with our heads and the typical host of complimenting bolts on's (headers, FAST intake possibly, UD pulley, EWP, etc. etc,), it will net you a very powerful and street friendly set-up.
It will run the number and give you the low end torque you seek as well as near stock driving manners (good fuel economy as well if you keep your foot out of it). In my PM I mentioned a 220/224 cam because that was alot better than alot of the smaller cams you seemed to be enamored with, but honestly the 224/228 grind myself and many others after me have ran has proven itself time and time again.
Your not reinventing the wheel here....just following in the footsteps of others with tried and true proven combinations.
If your still really hesitant on moving forward before you do a thing try to track down someone local with a similar combo so you can experience it perhaps. Hit the local cruise nights and ask around....guaranteed someone has a similar package they would love to let you check out and possibly take you for a ride in....most people are pretty cool about having the opportunity to show off the stuff they are proud of.
Good luck....feel free to call me as I suggested
Tony