HP potential of Cam on a bone stock car - story within.
09-25-2008, 02:49 PM
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HP potential of Cam on a bone stock car - story within. Hey guys,
I just purchased a 98 TA that i want to start moding.
I have about $600-800 to play with. I already own EFI live and a wideband.
Currently the car is bone stock right down to the paper filter. It has gutted cats and LM2 catback.
Im thinking about diving straight into a cam such as the Polluter, Torquer 2, MS3 or 4, etc.
I understand that all these guys making 425+ rw cam only with these cams, have an extensive list of bolt ons to back them up.
What kind of results could i expect to see on my stock everything car? Would just a cam yield better results than say long tube headers and true duals (would cost comparable money)
Long tube header, LS6 intake, Ported TB, etc are in the plans, but i can buy them piece by piece. I have enough money to do the cam and all the things such as springs, lifters, pushrods, etc, so im considering jumping on it.
This motor has 147k miles on it, so im sure it could benefit from a new valvetrain.
I have been through the whole heads/cam process before. My Camaro used to be a H/C/I/Nitrous car with all the supporting mods. Im just very antsy to get to modding this trans am and think that getting the biggest purchase out of the way at the beginning may be a decent option (this car will probably never get a set of heads.. at least not anytime soon, just cam and bolt ons with nitrous)
I just purchased a 98 TA that i want to start moding.
I have about $600-800 to play with. I already own EFI live and a wideband.
Currently the car is bone stock right down to the paper filter. It has gutted cats and LM2 catback.
Im thinking about diving straight into a cam such as the Polluter, Torquer 2, MS3 or 4, etc.
I understand that all these guys making 425+ rw cam only with these cams, have an extensive list of bolt ons to back them up.
What kind of results could i expect to see on my stock everything car? Would just a cam yield better results than say long tube headers and true duals (would cost comparable money)
Long tube header, LS6 intake, Ported TB, etc are in the plans, but i can buy them piece by piece. I have enough money to do the cam and all the things such as springs, lifters, pushrods, etc, so im considering jumping on it.
This motor has 147k miles on it, so im sure it could benefit from a new valvetrain.
I have been through the whole heads/cam process before. My Camaro used to be a H/C/I/Nitrous car with all the supporting mods. Im just very antsy to get to modding this trans am and think that getting the biggest purchase out of the way at the beginning may be a decent option (this car will probably never get a set of heads.. at least not anytime soon, just cam and bolt ons with nitrous)
09-25-2008, 08:50 PM
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Well my car with stock ls1 intake, stock tb and only bolt ons are pacesetters and duals with cats made 371 rwhp on a mustang dyno with the Torquer 2. Hoping to break 400 with my UD pulley, ls6 intake and ported TB.
09-25-2008, 09:10 PM
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09-25-2008, 10:00 PM
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Also, there is a local guy that went with a 224 cam before headers/ory/gears and he is running identical times with a few more mph. On my last car, I added headers/ory/tune and went .6 faster and a few mph faster on an otherwise stock lt1. LS1 should improve as much or more with the same mods.
09-25-2008, 10:29 PM
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I took the LS1 out of my Z28 @ 98k miles, and after countless bottles of nitrous for almost 50k miles (in top of heads, cam, intake), it still looked like new inside and out. I have a lot of faith in these motors.
09-25-2008, 10:30 PM
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To do that though you'd obviously need a good exhaust and headers and bolt ons and a good tune for sure.
09-25-2008, 10:39 PM
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agreed...i want to say its dam near impossible to reach 450hp with a cam, even if you had all the supporting mods. im not ruling out the possibility, but i woudlnt count on it. even with many of the supporting mods, intake, headers, ory, catback and such, you could hopefully put out around 400, dont forget the tune...and since you already ruled out the possibility of heads, your setup could float around the 400hp mark, imo...but good luck what whatever which combo you decide to dig in to.
09-25-2008, 10:50 PM
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Dynos are subjective to type, area, day, whatever a million other things....the important thing is that you pick up power over your baseline, and run a good track time. If you're not going with headers, and you're not doing heads, etc etc you'd be better off going with a cam that is intended to make maximum effort of your stock parts.
