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PPP-Tech Feb 26, 2009 05:35 PM

Question for LS guru's
 
What are you guys using for lifters when switching to dual valve-springs? Are you guys able to use stock lifters with the increased pressure from a dual spring setup. Ferrea just finished developement on a dual spring setup for the late-model hemi setup and I was wondering if you guys think about using stock lifters with this setup. There are no aftermarket lifters available for us yet and was just looking for opinions.

405HP_Z06 Feb 26, 2009 09:05 PM

The stock LS lifters can easily handle dual springs. I've been running Crane 144833 dual springs, 142 lbs. on the seat, for 5 years of daily driving with no adverse issues. I can't speak for Mopar lifters, but I would imagine you would have no issues.

PPP-Tech Feb 27, 2009 01:23 PM

Here is the valvetrain. thanks for the response.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...ponents006.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...ponents010.jpg

98Z28CobraKiller Feb 27, 2009 01:43 PM

LS7 lifters dumdumdum. Cheap and haven't seen one fail yet. I'm not sure how the hemi stuff works but the stock LS lifters have 2 flat sides that fit into lifter cups. There is a bridge between each set of lifters that the cups bolt on to. This keeps the lifters from spinning. I have heard that with cams with a small base circle, the stock lifter can potentially come out of the cup and spin on you which will wipe out the lobe and the lifter. Some companies like Jesel offer the lifters with a longer body in order to prevent this from happening. Geometry is very important. Hope this helps.

InferAl Feb 27, 2009 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller (Post 11142994)
LS7 lifters dumdumdum. Cheap and haven't seen one fail yet. I'm not sure how the hemi stuff works but the stock LS lifters have 2 flat sides that fit into lifter cups. There is a bridge between each set of lifters that the cups bolt on to. This keeps the lifters from spinning. I have heard that with cams with a small base circle, the stock lifter can potentially come out of the cup and spin on you which will wipe out the lobe and the lifter. Some companies like Jesel offer the lifters with a longer body in order to prevent this from happening. Geometry is very important. Hope this helps.

What kind of open spring pressure do you use on these dual springs

InferAl Feb 27, 2009 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by 405HP_Z06 (Post 11138698)
The stock LS lifters can easily handle dual springs. I've been running Crane 144833 dual springs, 142 lbs. on the seat, for 5 years of daily driving with no adverse issues. I can't speak for Mopar lifters, but I would imagine you would have no issues.

What kind of open seat pressure are you getting

405HP_Z06 Feb 27, 2009 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by inferal (Post 11145742)
what kind of open seat pressure are you getting

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