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Old 03-06-2019, 09:47 PM
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Yep, bando is a cheapo. I'm familiar with them, not because I use them, but because I've always avoided them.
I use a local independent parts house (amazing that they are still standing with the big 3 in town) for lots of different stuff, and I went in yesterday to get him to order me a Gates RPM belt, since they carry Gates. He asked me what belt shredded and when I told him the belt name, he laughed. I’ve never seen him laugh in 20 years. I told him the belt came my Holley accessories, and he told me I knew better. He was right!
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Good to know about the Gates RPM belt.
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I use a local independent parts house (amazing that they are still standing with the big 3 in town) for lots of different stuff, and I went in yesterday to get him to order me a Gates RPM belt, since they carry Gates. He asked me what belt shredded and when I told him the belt name, he laughed. I’ve never seen him laugh in 20 years. I told him the belt came my Holley accessories, and he told me I knew better. He was right!

Haha that's pretty funny. I have one of those guys at the local parts house. Older man if he cracked a smile it would crack his face. Saw him driving a couple of days ago, with a parrot on his shoulder.. Not sure how that's relevant but it was interesting.

Kinda crappy to pay all that money for the holley accessories and get a crapo belt. They were probably trying to keep cost down, but it was likely only about $10, certainly not worth the destruction and mess. I'd be pretty aggravated.
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Thought I’d update this thread. So I purchased the Katech tensioner for the Chevelle...and...I bought a Gates RPM belt, well bought two actually, one for the trunk in case I lost a belt again while out somewhere. Car no longer has belt issues. It’s been to rev-limiter quite a few times this past summer and fall without issue. Having changed to the Katech tensioner and a high quality belt simultaneously ruled out me figuring out the exact fix, but I’m 99% sure the tensioner cured the issues. I say that because I figured out that my engine revving quickly, just sitting in the shop, would cause the belt to jump a few grooves forward, over on the A/C side of the setup, where the tensioner is. So what I believe was happening was the tensioner did not have enough tension to hold the belt in place during rapid acceleration. Car revs very fast with 720+ hp at the crank, and the Oem tensioner just couldn’t hold the belt on...
So the Katech tensioner is highly recommend and the uber expensive Gates RPM belts @ $80 each seem to be doing their job as well. Bottom line is I don’t have belt issues anymore. Hope this helps someone out there in cyber land searching around for a fix to an issue similiar to mine.
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I use the Katech tensioner as standard equipment for my builds.
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I have a high wall pulley with stock tensioner and A/C running low nines and have never thru a belt yet?
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
Thought I’d update this thread. So I purchased the Katech tensioner for the Chevelle...and...I bought a Gates RPM belt, well bought two actually, one for the trunk in case I lost a belt again while out somewhere. Car no longer has belt issues. It’s been to rev-limiter quite a few times this past summer and fall without issue. Having changed to the Katech tensioner and a high quality belt simultaneously ruled out me figuring out the exact fix, but I’m 99% sure the tensioner cured the issues. I say that because I figured out that my engine revving quickly, just sitting in the shop, would cause the belt to jump a few grooves forward, over on the A/C side of the setup, where the tensioner is. So what I believe was happening was the tensioner did not have enough tension to hold the belt in place during rapid acceleration. Car revs very fast with 720+ hp at the crank, and the Oem tensioner just couldn’t hold the belt on...
So the Katech tensioner is highly recommend and the uber expensive Gates RPM belts @ $80 each seem to be doing their job as well. Bottom line is I don’t have belt issues anymore. Hope this helps someone out there in cyber land searching around for a fix to an issue similiar to mine.
I was throwing belts every time I walked the throttle on my 436ci stoker engine way back in 2002. I bought the Katech fixed tensioner and of course the problem was solved. But another fact that most people do not believe......I still have the same belt on my car when I replaced the belt back in 2002 when I installed the Katech tensioner.

These belts can literally last for 20 years......I too have a second belt that I bought back in 2002 and \kept it ion the back of my car, its still there too....LOL A belt that uses a tensioner that can bounce around like factory ones......thats what destroys and stretches belts. When a fixed tensioner is used it doesn't allow a belt to stretch at all, because it does not bounce and get yanked all over the place.

What even more stupid.....GM can design a fixed tensioner for less money and make more profit.......but instead they produce that piece pf garbage spring loaded tensioner....strange....

I'm waiting for my 17 year old belt to break.....
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One thing I didn't see mentioned is that if you have belt slip from the tensioner not keeping the belt tight you're going to have a lot of slip and heat. That is probably what killed it.

Along with being a lower quality belt.
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Originally Posted by 00pooterSS
One thing I didn't see mentioned is that if you have belt slip from the tensioner not keeping the belt tight you're going to have a lot of slip and heat. That is probably what killed it.

Along with being a lower quality belt.
Agreed. Had a good bit of belt slip due to tensioner. Alternator face was covered in black belt rubber dust as was the front of the ATI damper.
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Went through this problem on my 427 build as well - any time I went WOT at a lower gear, the belt would get tossed. (It's the RPM delta that throws belts, not necessarily just the RPM itself)
Manual tensioner fixed the problem here as well.

I do wanna say though that, with the new build being revved higher than factory (up to 7,000 rpm) I threw belts far below that, around 6500.

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