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Old 07-10-2010, 03:56 PM
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Ok lets take a step back and cover some bases..

1) my stock LS2 in my GTO took a huge dump when a stock lifter grenaded itself.
2) bought an LS3 block, poped in a new rotating assy, and put in caddy lifters
3) pull said LS3 block to put in my vette after about 20k miles and find one of my caddy lifters... has started to puke its guts out. not bad yet but it was apparently on its way out.

so my motor is down at the machine shop and the guys down there are recomending the **** out of these comp roller tie-bar lifters... they look hot, but are a bit pricey.

Ive already decided to say **** it im buyin them with this build BUT for once im really not sure what the major difference is.. what makes them better? what purpose does the tie-bar serve? do i still need my lifter trays? anything else i should know?
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You will not use Lifter trays with them. These usually allow for more lift on the cam without running the risk of the lifters coming out of the trays. If you're not doing anything major with the cam, they may have just been selling you a part...but they are nice pieces! I've got the Morel Link-bars in my LSX 427.
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Buy the MORELS and you will never have to worry about lifters again.
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Buy the MORELS and you will never have to worry about lifters again.
from what i understand the comp cams ones are morels??
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Originally Posted by Haans249 View Post
You will not use Lifter trays with them. These usually allow for more lift on the cam without running the risk of the lifters coming out of the trays. If you're not doing anything major with the cam, they may have just been selling you a part...but they are nice pieces! I've got the Morel Link-bars in my LSX 427.
possibly, but to be honest im so ******* sick of lifter problems... i dont care haha
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Originally Posted by EvilGTO View Post
from what i understand the comp cams ones are morels??
Well yes and no. They are made by Morel, but If I remember there are some differences. Morel makes most other companies lifters. They vary in grade and design. The Morel LS1 lifters we are speaking of are $500. How much are the comp ones?
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Well yes and no. They are made by Morel, but If I remember there are some differences. Morel makes most other companies lifters. They vary in grade and design. The Morel LS1 lifters we are speaking of are $500. How much are the comp ones?
right about 500 bucks...
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I would get the Morels. They are proven.
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The Comp Cams lifters are not Morel lifters. They are a different lifter.
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Originally Posted by racer7088 View Post
The Comp Cams lifters are not Morel lifters. They are a different lifter.
so if the price is the same.... what is the difference? are the comps any good?
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Originally Posted by racer7088 View Post
The Comp Cams lifters are not Morel lifters. They are a different lifter.
I was told Morel made comps lifters. Apparently it was bad info, thanks for the correction. I only run the Morels myself.
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Originally Posted by EvilGTO View Post
so if the price is the same.... what is the difference? are the comps any good?
I've used the comp link bars in SBC and SBF but not in LS1s so far. The actual Morel stuff is beefier with bigger wheels and thicker axles.

I use Comps stuff all the time but have never used these lifters so far but they are definitely different parts.
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I know I almost put LS7 lifters in my 402 build. Realized how much money was in it already so I bit the bullet and bought the Morels!!! Too many Scary Threads on other lifters going Bad. MORELS FTW!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 355TurboLT1 View Post
Well yes and no. They are made by Morel, but If I remember there are some differences. Morel makes most other companies lifters. They vary in grade and design. The Morel LS1 lifters we are speaking of are $500. How much are the comp ones?
Hyd Tie bar morel lifters for $500...please tell me were !
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Originally Posted by flatchat View Post
Hyd Tie bar morel lifters for $500...please tell me were !
Here you go: $525.00 yo your door.. Best price around!!!http://www.mcssl.com/store/cc-perfor...=morel+lifters
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Here you go: $525.00 yo your door.. Best price around!!!http://www.mcssl.com/store/cc-perfor...=morel+lifters
Better call them fast if you want them. I just bought a set from them and at that point I believe they only had 2 sets left.

They seem to be very hard to get your hands on...
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Originally Posted by 99LSS1 View Post
Here you go: $525.00 yo your door.. Best price around!!!http://www.mcssl.com/store/cc-perfor...=morel+lifters
Cool thanks ! Now what does HLT mean ?
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Originally Posted by EvilGTO View Post
Ok lets take a step back and cover some bases..

1) my stock LS2 in my GTO took a huge dump when a stock lifter grenaded itself.
2) bought an LS3 block, poped in a new rotating assy, and put in caddy lifters
3) pull said LS3 block to put in my vette after about 20k miles and find one of my caddy lifters... has started to puke its guts out. not bad yet but it was apparently on its way out.

so my motor is down at the machine shop and the guys down there are recomending the **** out of these comp roller tie-bar lifters... they look hot, but are a bit pricey.

Ive already decided to say **** it im buyin them with this build BUT for once im really not sure what the major difference is.. what makes them better? what purpose does the tie-bar serve? do i still need my lifter trays? anything else i should know?
Man, another failed Caddy lifter! What's up with that??
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amen to never putting ls7 lifters in again... wiped 2 cam lobes that i can see so far
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Originally Posted by Marble_Sharp View Post
Better call them fast if you want them. I just bought a set from them and at that point I believe they only had 2 sets left.

They seem to be very hard to get your hands on...
Not if your tuner knows the Ed Morel. I've pointed a few people to the source. lol
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