LS3 head Flow Stock, to ported
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LS3 head Flow Stock, to ported
Just got done flowing my 821's. I only have a 4.03" so thats what I used.
Lift - IN EX
.100 106 48
.150 142 85
.200 172 116
.250 198 143
.300 231 171
.350 253 193
.400 276 213
.450 297 225
.500 314 230
.550 323 234
.600 324 237
.650 327 240
Usually, our bench is very stingy, as my stock 241's flowed 5% less than some other test I had seen. These look to be 5-10% over others. Im mostly just looking to improve them and share my results with you. First I'll work the bowl, then exhaust, then the intake. Should take a week or two.
Lift - IN EX
.100 106 48
.150 142 85
.200 172 116
.250 198 143
.300 231 171
.350 253 193
.400 276 213
.450 297 225
.500 314 230
.550 323 234
.600 324 237
.650 327 240
Usually, our bench is very stingy, as my stock 241's flowed 5% less than some other test I had seen. These look to be 5-10% over others. Im mostly just looking to improve them and share my results with you. First I'll work the bowl, then exhaust, then the intake. Should take a week or two.
#3
isn't that more than typically published? esp. at 0.300 lift
#5
Wow those^ really take off up top. Yes mine seem to flow better than typical, just differences in benches, pressure, temp, and all that jazz. Or maybe the different casting's. They are not to far off Richard from WCCH's stock #'s (different casting #'s):
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...flow-data.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...flow-data.html
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Your flow numbers from .300" up are within 2 cfm of what Richard@WCCH got on his flow bench with stock L92 heads. If you happen to pour the port, it would be good info to have the port volumes for intake and exhaust before and after porting.
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
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2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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I wouldn't be too concerned with what they flow stock as much as what they gain ported using the same bench. Just like what you were saying before ie. benches, pressures, temps, ect...The intake is tricky since they have such a wide cross section in the throat already. You can hurt flow faster than you can find it if your not careful. It will be intersting where you find your flow at.
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I put around 10 hours on the exhaust side only of a set of l92s in a G8 GT 418 CI. Then run them for 3k and pulled them off. My polishing up to 400 grit eliminated carbon buildup on the exhaust port walls. it was dramatic and convincing, considering this part of the work took only around an hour.
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And apparently I screwed that initial test up...oops. The .05 is really .100 lift, thats why they look so strange. My mentor/buddy is now doing the flowing for me as he guides me on what to do/not to do. He wanted me to start on the intake instead of the exhaust
So far this week has been uber crazy and Ive only done a little bit, 3 minimal cuts have yielded this though
.100 72
.150 110
.200 155
.250 193
.300 233
.350 249
.400 284
.450 294
.500 312
.550 324
.600 326
That is step two, step one was:
.100 70
.150 109
.200 151
.250 188
.300 220
.350 245
.400 269
.450 289
.500 307
.550 320
.600 322
It quits flowing at about .625" lift. Next will be a little valve mod and making it flow above .450!!
So far this week has been uber crazy and Ive only done a little bit, 3 minimal cuts have yielded this though
.100 72
.150 110
.200 155
.250 193
.300 233
.350 249
.400 284
.450 294
.500 312
.550 324
.600 326
That is step two, step one was:
.100 70
.150 109
.200 151
.250 188
.300 220
.350 245
.400 269
.450 289
.500 307
.550 320
.600 322
It quits flowing at about .625" lift. Next will be a little valve mod and making it flow above .450!!
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Havent touched the seat yet, havent measured it yet either. That last one has a small little 15* cut between the seat and back angle, plus minimal porting. Hopefully I should be able to get to some hoggin tonight.
So he got bored today and ground on the head a little. He cut out the hump for the valve spring. It looks like its scrap to me, but a lot of the cnc programs do this too. Is it safe? The casting has maybe .125" there by the looks of it;
So he got bored today and ground on the head a little. He cut out the hump for the valve spring. It looks like its scrap to me, but a lot of the cnc programs do this too. Is it safe? The casting has maybe .125" there by the looks of it;
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I have a request. With the valves on the seats, can you put a straight edge on the head surface and measure to the edge of each valve? I was looking for that spec for my Performance Trends software.
Here are a couple of cross-sections from the blueprints for the L92 head. You can see how thin it is on the intake port near the spring pocket.
Here are a couple of cross-sections from the blueprints for the L92 head. You can see how thin it is on the intake port near the spring pocket.
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I didn't pick up much getting rid of any humps. It seemed most of my money was in the short turn area. It didn't seem to respond to much guide or bowl work either. BUT, I started with short turn work and anything else I did after that was a wash or hurt it. I don't know if bowl work would have returned benefits if I had started there first.
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I have a request. With the valves on the seats, can you put a straight edge on the head surface and measure to the edge of each valve? I was looking for that spec for my Performance Trends software.
Here are a couple of cross-sections from the blueprints for the L92 head. You can see how thin it is on the intake port near the spring pocket.
Here are a couple of cross-sections from the blueprints for the L92 head. You can see how thin it is on the intake port near the spring pocket.
Did some cutting again last night to the intake, and a little on the exhaust.
lift IN EX
.100 74 56
.150 112 95
.200 157 125
.250 196 154
.300 226 182
.350 252 205
.400 283 220
.450 306 230
.500 324 236
.550 337 240
.600 341 244
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Measurement 1, is the valves closest point to the deck, 2 is the middle of the valve, measured at its edge, and 3 is its point furthest from the deck opposite measurment 1. 4 is to the center of the valve.
EX:
1) .175
2) .365
3) .575
4) .555
IN:
1) .075
2) .385
3) .675
4) .500
EX:
1) .175
2) .365
3) .575
4) .555
IN:
1) .075
2) .385
3) .675
4) .500