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6.2 AFR 225cc G6x3 or MS4

Old 08-24-2012, 12:25 AM
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Default 6.2 AFR 225cc G6x3 or MS4

Putting together a 6.2L stock bottom end with AFR 225cc heads that have been milled to achieve a 66 cc combustion chamber. I know a custom cam would be best but I'm using what I have for now and can't decide if I should put in the MS4 or the G6x3 both an a 112 LSA. It's going into an 01ss 6 speed S60 with a 4.30 gear.
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I had the same shortblock and heads with a 12:1 compression. I went with the StreetSweeper from Flowtech because it is a proven cam. I broke 500 RWHP on a new engine with cheap headers. There was power everywhere and very linear.
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I say the g6x3
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vote for g6
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Wow solid numbers! I think I should be able to hit 500rwhp with my setup. I'm leaning towards the g6 too seems to perform very well with cathedral or ls3 heads
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Are you certain you will have clearance for cams like that?
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Originally Posted by JohnJanz@Texas-Speed
Are you certain you will have clearance for cams like that?
i doubt he has thought that far ahead lol...
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Originally Posted by JohnJanz@Texas-Speed
Are you certain you will have clearance for cams like that?
Originally Posted by Ryne @ CMS
i doubt he has thought that far ahead lol...
While not certain if the Op will be ok, the g6x3 clears PTV on a stock LS3. That's a 70 cc chamber vs. a 66 cc chamber. I wouldn't think only 4 cc's on the chamber would affect the PTV? Isn't it like .004 of and inch per cc? If that's the case then yeah PTV might be an issue.

He still could run a thicker gasket and solve that issue if he runs across it.
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More like .006" per cc.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
While not certain if the Op will be ok, the g6x3 clears PTV on a stock LS3. That's a 70 cc chamber vs. a 66 cc chamber. I wouldn't think only 4 cc's on the chamber would affect the PTV? Isn't it like .004 of and inch per cc? If that's the case then yeah PTV might be an issue.

He still could run a thicker gasket and solve that issue if he runs across it.
i think checking piston to valve to going to be mandatory, in addition throwing a thicker gasket at it while increasing quench is not a good idea either.... i would rather flycut before doing that..
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Sorry to put an end to your comedy show, but I am flycutting regardless if it clears or not. Even if it does clear its too close for comfort. All I asked is an opinion from someone who might have done a set up like mine. Both cams were acquired because the price was right, not because Im a nut swinger on cams with a special name. Maybe I'll test both.

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Originally Posted by Ryne @ CMS
i think checking piston to valve to going to be mandatory, in addition throwing a thicker gasket at it while increasing quench is not a good idea either.... i would rather flycut before doing that..
OrangeChevyII on here has a 2010 LS3 camaro and has been 10.20 with that cam and spray and no PTV issues.

Were not talking much here on gasket thickness. Also, its somewhat a trade off, big chamber-thin gasket vs small chamber-thick gasket.


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Originally Posted by blackLS1m6
Sorry to put an end to your comedy show, but I am flycutting regardless if it clears or not. Even if it does clear its too close for comfort. All I asked is an opinion from someone who might have done a set up like mine. Both cams were acquired because the price was right, not because Im a nut swinger on cams with a special name. Maybe I'll test both.

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Are you putting together an L92 or LS3? Reason I ask because L92 pistons come with reliefs in them and didn't know which one you were building and it would help in this situation.
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Thanks 87silverbullet, Its an l92 shortblock and I will be checking ptv just to make sure I have enough with the factory reliefs. It's a six speed with nitrous too. I have the ms4 in my ls1 now, how much it clears by I don't know it's a chance i took, I've heard both clearing without reliefs but I'm sure it's not enough clearance to be on the safe side.
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Originally Posted by blackLS1m6
Thanks 87silverbullet, Its an l92 shortblock and I will be checking ptv just to make sure I have enough with the factory reliefs. It's a six speed with nitrous too. I have the ms4 in my ls1 now, how much it clears by I don't know it's a chance i took, I've heard both clearing without reliefs but I'm sure it's not enough clearance to be on the safe side.
It should be ok. Both cams were designed to clear in stock engines. Still check it no matter what.


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