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Old 01-06-2013, 03:26 PM
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Grayhatch can you elaborate on what was done to fix the oiling issue?
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O ring was pinched. Never had low pressure

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O ring was pinched. Never had low pressure

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Similar issue, if not as pronounced. I'm running more cam/spring/rpm so that follows the pattern. The more I dig into this issue, the less I think its an oiling problem (in all cases, not just my own). I will be getting mine bushed by CHE, the bushings have almost twice the surface area as the bearings do, and are far more robust. Nothing to wear as bronze is self lubricating.
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I have a manual oil pressure guage now so we can monitor it. I tapped it into the valley cover, so its at the highest point in the engine. We will see how this progresses
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I should have known the gauge was not as responsive after I put the pan on. But it had good pressure.

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SO that pinched O ring is what caused your trunion issues?
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yep

It was a oiling issue. Everything was wet made 40 at idle reved up 70 or a little more. I thought for sure the lifters were dead then I found some trunion material shavings arounrd the clips.

new trunions and o ring lots of miles the rest of the summer and they have been fine.

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Originally Posted by DietCoke
Similar issue, if not as pronounced. I'm running more cam/spring/rpm so that follows the pattern. The more I dig into this issue, the less I think its an oiling problem (in all cases, not just my own). I will be getting mine bushed by CHE, the bushings have almost twice the surface area as the bearings do, and are far more robust. Nothing to wear as bronze is self lubricating.
Although CHE bronze bushing is another alternative. As to the "Nothing to wear as bronze is self lubricating." part. That is questionable?

So far, all the reported cases appear that needle bearing is harder and trunion race area shown the localized damage.

Bronze is softer than steel in needle bearing and trunion. Bronze in CHE does not rotate, unable to spreading out the "wear", as individual needle bearing, having the possibility to rotate, within outer race, as bushing is pressed fitted then machined. All the pivoting bronze bearing will be subjecting to will have wear and will be localize in an small arc, as on the damaged trunions shown. Being it is the softest material in the assembly - how much wear, will be the question.

It is true that bronze is often used as bearing material in selected application. So is "Oilite Bronze", which is truly self lubricating type, as it is manufactured with impregnated oil within the pores - I wonder what type/grade CHE is using - all they say their bronze is special!

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CHE bronze is the same kind used to bush lifter bores. It's up to the job
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Originally Posted by DietCoke
CHE bronze is the same kind used to bush lifter bores. It's up to the job
I dunno, that's a completely different motion and the loading is certainly different, too. I'd be interested in seeing how this pans out...
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Diet Coke didnt have a lot of miles on that engine. Cant be worse me thinks

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R&D is awesome, especially when you're the one paying for it and putting in wrench time... you know, around life, a job, the wife... blah blah blah. Gotta love it

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Originally Posted by DietCoke
Katech uses CHE bushed rockers in their cup enduro engines. Good enough for me.


R&D is awesome, especially when you're the one paying for it and putting in wrench time... you know, around life, a job, the wife... blah blah blah. Gotta love it
Where did you read that?
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Originally Posted by Katech_Jason
Where did you read that?
On corvette forum!

Edit: I misread. I see you use CHE bronze GUIDES, not rocker bushes. My mistake. I fixed the above post.

(http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...-valves-7.html)
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Dealing with comp rep (Ryan Hart) and they want the set back to check them over. We'll see.

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Keep us posted!
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Should i be concern about this comp cam trunion upgrade kit? I have motor this about to put together and i don't want to run into any problem like this.
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from: Ryan Hart <rhart@compcams.com>
to: CB <xxxxxxx>

Hi Chris, just a quick question. How long have you been running these rockers? I was just looking at the pictures you sent in. They look like normal wear and your lobes are pretty stout. I was just thinking if it has been a while since you last built them then it may be just normal wear. If you still want to send them in for a check, that’s fine. I will send you the RMA number.



I'm flabbergasted at the notion. Normal wear... lol. Comp REALLY believes in their product, NOT.


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