Where to buy a 4.50 Stroke LSX Crank
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Sonny Bryant cranks, Randy windburg cranks but you better have deep pockets, you defiantly get what you pay for though.
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oh forgot Lunati. ERL is good and have a custom stock block with a spacer. I spoke 2 Warren Johnson about the LSX block and the design flaws. RHS BLOCK with that crank/rod combo will set you back about 7500 just 2 start no PISTONS included.
Side note tree branch fell threw the roof of my Mallybu. Found a 83 Cutlass 307 ci not running for $450 now we got to remove and replace rear end and see what front end parts can carry over from the Malibu. We took out the seats and the tach,stereo etc..and thats all set up.
Side note tree branch fell threw the roof of my Mallybu. Found a 83 Cutlass 307 ci not running for $450 now we got to remove and replace rear end and see what front end parts can carry over from the Malibu. We took out the seats and the tach,stereo etc..and thats all set up.
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I have built many sleeved LS blocks and I have built several LSX tall deck blocks so I am very familiar with the issues. I have also had RED do several dry and Darton sleeved LS blocks. I just finished my own version of a super deck 5.3 block (1/2" spacer deck, 468 cid) which is working great. It has a 4.25 crank in it and I had minor cam interference problems with that stroke. All these blocks have the same problem, which is the cam tunnel is not raised.
I am now wanting to build an aluminum 500 cid LS engine which requires the 'long arm' and I am looking at the RHS block, the big crank, and All Pro heads. The budget is $25K. As far as I could tell the Warhawk block does not have a raised cam tunnel and I need 4.185 bore as well.
I did manage to build a 492 cid LSX tall deck block which was fairly successful, but it required an offset ground crank and 2.0" rod journals and a 4.25 bore. I need to achieve 900+ reliable NA horsepower so the small journal and huge bore size is not acceptable which is why I am now researching the alternatives.
Thanks for all the response and advice.
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I am now wanting to build an aluminum 500 cid LS engine which requires the 'long arm' and I am looking at the RHS block, the big crank, and All Pro heads. The budget is $25K. As far as I could tell the Warhawk block does not have a raised cam tunnel and I need 4.185 bore as well.
I did manage to build a 492 cid LSX tall deck block which was fairly successful, but it required an offset ground crank and 2.0" rod journals and a 4.25 bore. I need to achieve 900+ reliable NA horsepower so the small journal and huge bore size is not acceptable which is why I am now researching the alternatives.
Thanks for all the response and advice.
Shirl Dickey
Shirl Dickey Racing Engines
Aguila, AZ
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RHS BLOCK or ERL spacer block... I like the RHS me myself just wish they came with ductile sleeves for 4.20 bore 4.165 max is the factory max. The 496 combo is good but the LSX Tall Deck sleeves R 2 short also the cam tunnel problem to be realible over the long haul.
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I have built many sleeved LS blocks and I have built several LSX tall deck blocks so I am very familiar with the issues. I have also had RED do several dry and Darton sleeved LS blocks. I just finished my own version of a super deck 5.3 block (1/2" spacer deck, 468 cid) which is working great. It has a 4.25 crank in it and I had minor cam interference problems with that stroke. All these blocks have the same problem, which is the cam tunnel is not raised.
I am now wanting to build an aluminum 500 cid LS engine which requires the 'long arm' and I am looking at the RHS block, the big crank, and All Pro heads. The budget is $25K. As far as I could tell the Warhawk block does not have a raised cam tunnel and I need 4.185 bore as well.
I did manage to build a 492 cid LSX tall deck block which was fairly successful, but it required an offset ground crank and 2.0" rod journals and a 4.25 bore. I need to achieve 900+ reliable NA horsepower so the small journal and huge bore size is not acceptable which is why I am now researching the alternatives.
Thanks for all the response and advice.
Shirl Dickey
Shirl Dickey Racing Engines
Aguila, AZ
I am now wanting to build an aluminum 500 cid LS engine which requires the 'long arm' and I am looking at the RHS block, the big crank, and All Pro heads. The budget is $25K. As far as I could tell the Warhawk block does not have a raised cam tunnel and I need 4.185 bore as well.
I did manage to build a 492 cid LSX tall deck block which was fairly successful, but it required an offset ground crank and 2.0" rod journals and a 4.25 bore. I need to achieve 900+ reliable NA horsepower so the small journal and huge bore size is not acceptable which is why I am now researching the alternatives.
Thanks for all the response and advice.
Shirl Dickey
Shirl Dickey Racing Engines
Aguila, AZ
Only the RHS Tall Deck block can do what you want to do and retain a normal cam journal and base circle size etc. Callies has a 4.600 crank scienced out that they've made work just fine in that RHS Tall Deck block. I've used several too. You can put even a wee bit more stroke in but it gets very dicey with oil galley clearance etc. depending on what rods and journals etc. The Callies, Bryant and others at this 4.500+ stroke level are usually billet CCW cranks and you often have to clearance the center main bulkhead for those center counterweights. I think ERL had some Lunatis too at that stroke level they might sell you as well that may still be reg forgings instead of billet like we used on their 500 CID deal at the school back in the day.
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Thanks E for the info about the rod journal trick of more stroke on that Monster.(I thought 4.60 was as good as it got) 4.60 crank with turned down journals Hot Dam. I seen the guy with the resleeve 510ci Tall deck RHS. Thanks again for the TECH knowledge you got.
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Thanks E for the info about the rod journal trick of more stroke on that Monster.(I thought 4.60 was as good as it got) 4.60 crank with turned down journals Hot Dam. I seen the guy with the resleeve 510ci Tall deck RHS. Thanks again for the TECH knowledge you got.
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Bryant will do it too but it might need some weird drilled holes as well to get much more stroke than that and stay reliable I guess. I'll leave that up to them at Callies and Sonny Bryant!
My computers blew up twice before moving and I lost a lot of my damn pictures of this deal or I would post them of the clearance at 4.600 on the RHS everywhere but it was still not that bad at least with the stuff we used at that time which I think was Compstar rods on 2 and Callies Billet Ultra rods on another.
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King the RHS recommends that you use 4.165 but I know of 2 people who have taken it too 4.185 N/A... (I'M SURE ) those sleeves are not ductile steel so as they say proceed at your own risk.
google 510 LSX and he's resleeving that RHS combo.
BTW Spike TV has the Repeat of the LS stroker turbo set-up on in 11min again on POWER NATION.
google 510 LSX and he's resleeving that RHS combo.
BTW Spike TV has the Repeat of the LS stroker turbo set-up on in 11min again on POWER NATION.
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King the RHS recommends that you use 4.165 but I know of 2 people who have taken it too 4.185 N/A... (I'M SURE ) those sleeves are not ductile steel so as they say proceed at your own risk.
google 510 LSX and he's resleeving that RHS combo.
BTW Spike TV has the Repeat of the LS stroker turbo set-up on in 11min again on POWER NATION.
google 510 LSX and he's resleeving that RHS combo.
BTW Spike TV has the Repeat of the LS stroker turbo set-up on in 11min again on POWER NATION.
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Call Todd Goodwin of Competition Engines for the RHS 510 set-up
I would love to see or dream of a 4.60 crank spinning up to 7500-8000 rpms.
1 other dream I had has started though .... I luv heads so... I talked 2 Chris Frank (he did my LS3's) and he gave me a quoted on the Cnc $1600.oo for a set of custom LSX CT raw port heads for my 408 (btw it's broken in KCS). I don't want a larger engine but I REALLY do luv heads and different combinations...
So many other things going on but we will get there on my budget.
I would love to see or dream of a 4.60 crank spinning up to 7500-8000 rpms.
1 other dream I had has started though .... I luv heads so... I talked 2 Chris Frank (he did my LS3's) and he gave me a quoted on the Cnc $1600.oo for a set of custom LSX CT raw port heads for my 408 (btw it's broken in KCS). I don't want a larger engine but I REALLY do luv heads and different combinations...
So many other things going on but we will get there on my budget.
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King the RHS recommends that you use 4.165 but I know of 2 people who have taken it too 4.185 N/A... (I'M SURE ) those sleeves are not ductile steel so as they say proceed at your own risk.
google 510 LSX and he's resleeving that RHS combo.
BTW Spike TV has the Repeat of the LS stroker turbo set-up on in 11min again on POWER NATION.
google 510 LSX and he's resleeving that RHS combo.
BTW Spike TV has the Repeat of the LS stroker turbo set-up on in 11min again on POWER NATION.
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No a friend wanted a 454 RHS and did not want 2 use a crazy crank combo. 4.185 bore and a 4.125 crank adds up to 454ci.
4.165 bore 4.125 stroke is not a 454 it's has a few cubic inches missing...
The resleeve RHS is done 2 get 510ci.... 4.200 bore 4.600 stroke
Are you with me now.
4.165 bore and a 4.600 crank = 502 ci RHS
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4.165 bore 4.125 stroke is not a 454 it's has a few cubic inches missing...
The resleeve RHS is done 2 get 510ci.... 4.200 bore 4.600 stroke
Are you with me now.
4.165 bore and a 4.600 crank = 502 ci RHS
Dummy version 2
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