Originally Posted by andy-lswon (Post 19636557)

i still can't decide on a Cam for anyone that's been reading my posts bc I want a safe piston to valve clearance. What's the difference in the BTR stage 3 or Tick stage 2 cam? They're both 229/244. I heard somewhere they were the same cam and jointly designed by Martin and BTR. Is that true?

Originally Posted by ragtopz28 (Post 19636574)

Not sure where your getting those specs, but the BTR is 231/242...I have one.

Originally Posted by HCI2000SS (Post 19636578)

What car is this going in and what mods? I don't recall your setup

Originally Posted by andy-lswon (Post 19636587)

Originally Posted by andy-lswon (Post 19636557)

i still can't decide on a Cam for anyone that's been reading my posts bc I want a safe piston to valve clearance. What's the difference in the BTR stage 3 or Tick stage 2 cam? They're both 229/244. I heard somewhere they were the same cam and jointly designed by Martin and BTR. Is that true?

Originally Posted by speedtigger (Post 19636613)

Tick Performance has all their cams manufactured by Cam Motion. Brian Tooley Racing has some cams ground by Cam Motion and some by Comp Cams. I think BTR has that particular grind made by Comp Cams.

Full Disclosure: I work for Cam Motion. With that said, our lobe designs are known for quiet operation and hi-RPM stability. We also CNC polish all of cams after grinding to assure an ideal and very consistent finish. If you do some searches on this forum, I think you will find many testimonials to our quality and reputation.

Originally Posted by andy-lswon (Post 19636617)

Im actually trying to stay away from a comp core if I can. You wouldnt happen to have an estimated piston to valve clearance would you with that Tick cam with stock heads? I've also been looking a lot into your Titan King LS3 cam

Originally Posted by speedtigger (Post 19636623)

All 3 cams will have the same IVOs(intake valve open) of 6.5 degrees before top dead center and very close EVCs(exhaust valve close) of 6 to 6.5 degrees after top dead center. So, they will all have about the same valve clearance. So, I would expect about .050" to .060" intake valve clearance in an LS3 and about .070" exhaust valve clearance in an LS3. You will be fine as long as you don't mill the heads or use a thin head gasket.

Originally Posted by andy-lswon (Post 19636627)

I don't plan on having the heads milled. If anything I'd go aftermarket in the future for any head work. Between the Tick and Titan king how would you compare the torque curves of both. Seems like the Tick would make better power down low but maybe I'm mistaken. Which one would work better with my 3600ss converter

Originally Posted by speedtigger (Post 19636674)

The Tick Stage II has an earlier IVC, so it will have a bit more midrange torque where the Titan King will make a bit more peak HP and carry a bit higher.

Originally Posted by andy-lswon (Post 19636790)

awesome so the Tick would probably have more usable power on the street then

Originally Posted by speedtigger (Post 19636674)

The Tick Stage II has an earlier IVC, so it will have a bit more midrange torque where the Titan King will make a bit more peak HP and carry a bit higher.

Originally Posted by speedtigger (Post 19636875)

I would characterize it as quoted below:



The camshaft that we make for all around power under the curve for street driving is the Titan 3 LS3. It is designed to be a aggressive street cam that still has very good drivability.

With that said, the Tick Stage II will make more power than the Titan 3 LS3, but it also has twice the overlap. So, it will depend on what type of personality you want the camshaft to have. If you want a very aggressive, hard chopping, street/strip idle, then you will want the Tick Stage II camshaft. If you want a mild to moderate lope/chop at idle and a little better manners and drivability, you might like the Titan 3 LS3 better.

Originally Posted by andy-lswon (Post 19636907)

the Tick stage 2 sounds about what I'm looking for. A mid range cam with some lope. I'm going to have Tick have it made on your 8620 core so you will be seeing my order come thru soon. Thanks for the info on both I appreciate it

Originally Posted by Jimbo1367 (Post 19640001)

speedtigger,
what do you do @ cammotion?

Originally Posted by speedtigger (Post 19640013)

I wear many hats. Depends on the day. :)