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vorteciroc 02-23-2019 06:58 PM

Mystery 6.0L Core ???
 
I recently picked up an engine core and I am confused as to what it is...

So far It is clear that the engine is a Gen IV 6.0L, build date November of 2007 and VIN that went into a 2008 vehicle.
It has DOD/ AFM lifters and valley cover with NO VVT.

What is ODD is that it had Cathedral port heads on this engine.
I stupidly did not look at the cylinder head casting number before taking the short block home.
If I remember correctly, the heads looked like the larger chamber 317 heads that were on Gen III LQ4 engines.

01FormulaTA 02-24-2019 12:12 PM

All Gen 4 6.0 have rectangle port heads...so if it is Gen 4 someone swapped the heads and the only Gen 4 6.0 with AFM was the Aluminum L76 from the NNBS Vortec Max Trucks...also on the back of the block it will tell you the displacement and if it’s a Gen 4...example of my L96...post some pics for us


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/ls1tech...d481c98e1.jpeg

G Atsma 02-24-2019 12:17 PM

Was the engine in a vehicle when you first saw it? I wonder if someone used a Gen IV 6.0 short block to rehab a Gen III engine in an older truck, and left all the DOD junk in there.

brandon6.0 02-24-2019 01:05 PM

Is it a iron or aluminum block? What casting head #? What color crank sensor?

JoeNova 02-24-2019 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA (Post 20053429)
All Gen 4 6.0 have rectangle port heads...so if it is Gen 4 someone swapped the heads and the only Gen 4 6.0 with AFM was the Aluminum L76 from the NNBS Vortec Max Trucks...also on the back of the block it will tell you the displacement and if it’s a Gen 4...example of my L96...post some pics for us

The later LS2s were technically Gen 4 and had cathedrals.
The LFA and LZ1 were hybrid versions of the LS2. 243s with flat tops, VVT, AFM.

vorteciroc 02-24-2019 07:31 PM

I'm starting to get information coming in...

I went back to the dealership that had the engine core.

The heads that I left behind are 243 castings.

I am waiting on a break down of the last 8 of the VIN... so far I know the engine came from a plant in Australia and the vehicle is a 2008 Pontiac or GMC of some type...

vorteciroc 02-24-2019 07:33 PM

Is it POSSIBLE that in 2008 a Pontiac G8 could have had a L76 engine with DOD and 243 heads?

Or was the a 2008 GMC truck with the L76 vortec-max as stated above with 243 heads?

What confuses me, is I was under the impression L76 engine had VVT... The engine core had no VVT cam/ timing set/ timing cover/ actuator/ or electrical...

JoeNova 02-24-2019 07:35 PM

No, the L76 had rectangle ports.

Is the block you have iron with cathedrals? There were no Gen 4 iron/cathedral combos from the factory.

vorteciroc 02-24-2019 07:41 PM

No... That would make too much sense.

It is aluminum...

Looking at the engine core, one would think it to be an LS2 however it has DOD... This is why I call it the MYSTERY engine core.

JoeNova 02-24-2019 07:43 PM

The LFA was available in 2008 models. Its an aluminum/cathedral engine with DoD.

vorteciroc 02-24-2019 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by JoeNova (Post 20053717)
The LFA was available in 2008 models. Its an aluminum/cathedral engine with DoD.

Now that is interesting! You are certain the LFA did not use VVT?

Should that be the case, you may be correct.

JoeNova 02-24-2019 09:08 PM

Do you have a picture of the engine?

The LFA had VVT.

vorteciroc 02-24-2019 10:07 PM

I can a photo of the cylinder block... what exactly would you want to have a photo of?

vorteciroc 02-24-2019 10:12 PM

Here is the only one I have at the moment...

Just let me know specifically what you are looking for.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/ls1tech...e5c38e74c2.jpg

vorteciroc 02-24-2019 10:24 PM

As of today, it now looks like this...


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/ls1tech...3235aa0183.jpg

JoeNova 02-25-2019 08:31 AM

Once it is stripped that bare, the RPO code becomes irrelevant. Once you strip an LM7 block down to nothing, it becomes the base that was used for 4 different RPO codes. Same for several other engines.

GarrettT/A 02-25-2019 10:56 AM

Measure the bore. Sounds like a 5.3.

JoeNova 02-25-2019 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by GarrettT/A (Post 20054044)
Measure the bore. Sounds like a 5.3.

Seems a little excessive considering it will say either 5.3 or 6.0 directly on the block.

GarrettT/A 02-25-2019 02:24 PM

This is true ha.

vorteciroc 02-25-2019 11:15 PM

Yeah, the block has two locations cast as "6.0L" and the bores measured 4.0004" to 4.0010" ...Obviously a 4" bore engine.

They are now approximately 4.005". I just ordered new JE forged flat top pistons with dual valve reliefs and a Total Seal ring set for this engine.

I also ordered a set of Manley 6.125" pro-series I beam connecting rods and a Callies DragonSlayer 4" crankshaft.

Are many of you guys running perfectly "square" engines?

I was concerned it was an odd-ball factory mistake or who knows what else... Maybe something Rare?

So far it is looking like a 6.0L from a GMC Yukon Hybrid.

I'm still waiting on more information...

Any recommendation on cylinder heads for this displacement engine? I have up to $3,000 to spend on heads less springs/ retainers/ locks and machine work.


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