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Old 05-16-2019, 05:09 PM
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AHP advertises almost 20 cfm higher on a stock LS7 heads than does WCCH at .650 lift on a 4.155 bore and 2.205 intake valve.....

AHP @352.8 cfm
WCCH@333.1 cfm
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Found this (for stock LS7 purposes).
Should be a great build regardless of the comparison between the two companies. I just got sold on AHP based reputation,etc... and then I met them and they are the real deal.

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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
They used a 4.155 bore plate vs a 4.125. That may be why.
Agreed. 4.155 bore will allow head to flow more air. These Archangel 275 numbers are right at Mamo 265 numbers.
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That's a strange looking 6 bolt head casting compared to mine. Are the stations hidden??
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
Agreed. 4.155 bore will allow head to flow more air. These Archangel 275 numbers are right at Mamo 265 numbers.
Yup. They're stout for sure. The Brodix BR 273 continue to intrigue me, as they flow the same as the mamo 265. Slightly more port volume, but still impressive. To do much better than these offerings, you get into 300+cc runners. LSX-DR, LS-R, Mozez, etc.

Anyway, it's good to see some more offerings in that 410 cfm range with smallish ports (compared to stock castings ported out)
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Yup. They're stout for sure. The Brodix BR 273 continue to intrigue me, as they flow the same as the mamo 265. Slightly more port volume, but still impressive. To do much better than these offerings, you get into 300+cc runners. LSX-DR, LS-R, Mozez, etc.

Anyway, it's good to see some more offerings in that 410 cfm range with smallish ports (compared to stock castings ported out)
Wish I knew where I put the flow #'s for my Frankenstein BR7's. I can only speculate for now but thought they were ~421cfm @ .750 with a 272cc runner
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Originally Posted by cdubbzz
Wish I knew where I put the flow #'s for my Frankenstein BR7's. I can only speculate for now but thought they were ~421cfm @ .750 with a 272cc runner
Here's my complete WCCH test numbers, and I believe Richard does not use a radius bell mouth (clay) at the intake port.


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Never believe the internet, I "thought" my heads flowed 421cfm, couldn't be more wrong. Valve sizes are 2.25 intake and 1.614 exh....272cc runner

.200...162 intake/ 95 exh
.300...240 intake/ 140 exh
.400...292 intake/ 177 exh
.500...338 intake/ 229 exh
.600...381 intake/ 247 exh
.700...376 intake/ 254 exh
.800...383 intake/ 258 exh
.900...395 intake/ 258 exh
1.00...403 intake/ 258 exh
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That's y i like you....you deal in facts not in the advertisement sales BS.
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Also WCCH 290cc port 430cfm but all pro casting....

​​​​​​Smart man buy's Brodix big springs no cnc and ask Richard for the all pro 290 port. Can't say it won't work BS heads are super thick in the runner. Cheaper
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Originally Posted by cdubbzz
Never believe the internet, I "thought" my heads flowed 421cfm, couldn't be more wrong. Valve sizes are 2.25 intake and 1.614 exh....272cc runner

.200...162 intake/ 95 exh
.300...240 intake/ 140 exh
.400...292 intake/ 177 exh
.500...338 intake/ 229 exh
.600...381 intake/ 247 exh
.700...376 intake/ 254 exh
.800...383 intake/ 258 exh
.900...395 intake/ 258 exh
1.00...403 intake/ 258 exh
Who told you that the heads flowed 421 to start with? This is an excellent example of spending time developing a great intake port program. Not sure what Frankenstein put into this time wise, but as I’ve posted in the past Tony spent a year of his life, and I’m not talking about 8 hour days either, developing his intake port program. He does the same thing to the BR7 heads as he does the TFS castings. His V2.0 is at 415 CFM at just over .700”. With a smallish port, that means velocity is super high which equates to unmatched cylinder fill at low rpm and lift also. Driveability is the key here. You won’t have to turn 8500 to make power. On a dyno chart, torque graph is as flat as a table top.

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Old 05-22-2019, 11:27 PM
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Chris Frank heads have always performed .... Tony heads are good but basic as is tfs casting....I can go further about the CSA of the 265 head ...which is Never talked about... It's just a head and Nothing changes... Listen to the post or thread which I posted, when Darin spoke about 1& half.... it's all CSA and the combination..265 port Would not support a higher hp.... Port to small to make real hp ..may be good for lower tq. One port size doesn't fit all. Added with lift is hp.700 lift is child's play. And areas Needed. .combo dependant. Again 1 size don't fit all..
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Chevelle I make heads LoL.
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What"$ the rpm Curtain number for a 265 head with a 427?

Basic?

My 275 cc port and 2.9 CSA rowdy Yates heads are good for 8k with a 408
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Sorry drinking with my Hispanic crew ....but real talk.

Done in CSA....from there we work with a given combination
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BTW the .720 lift and a MSD = Just point it backwards



i didn't make the rules for Hp ....
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You know what they say..

http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33165

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Woke up and what was said still holds merit. What is the CSA for the Mamo head? Let's talk heads... You say you have a program....


Top of my head 2.85 csa and a 7200 curtain.....How Real head guys talk not this BS seen.

Dyno's and CC for how to pick a head only on here ....

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Originally Posted by Smokey B
All this showed was they put a ported FAST on over a stock LS7 intake and gained 30 or so HP. Which is right in line LOL


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