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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 01:19 PM
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I figured I would post my build and see if anyone has any thoughts or future upgrades. This is for a BMW. The plan is some time trials, autocross, and weekend driving. The thought process around this build is reliability. Started as an LS3 long block.

Bore - 4.070"
Stroke - 4"
Callie's 8 CW crank - Fairly new offering in the forged area, but 8 CW is more common with billet cranks
Scat 6.125 CR
Custom pistons - Erik Koenig is designing these. Shelf-stock pistons are a bit heavy. We are trying to get the bob weight down
Johnson Lifters w/ tie bars
Comp Cams Shaft Rocker System
Heads - Stock LS3
Intake - Stock LS3

We aren't to the portion of cam specs yet. I had a TSP stage 2 in my LS3 that seemed to run really nice. Drive-ability was good with good mid-range. I am purposefully staying stock heads/intake to keep the price down with something I can upgrade later down the road.
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 01:29 PM
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If you got Erik building your motor don't worry about no one else's opinion. I bet it's going to haul *** period.
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 01:31 PM
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How much heavier is the 8CW crank vs the normal one?

Stock heads can make great power. Get a rod mod and ported LS3 intake from GPI. You can recoup the cost if you ever sell it, or find one for sale used.
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by spanks13
How much heavier is the 8CW crank vs the normal one?
Balance to 1785 grams vs 1850 grams. But, the crank will be balanced to match my bob weight. I'm not sure how much heavier it will be overall.
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 03:36 PM
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If you got Erik building your motor don't worry about no one else's opinion. I bet it's going to haul *** period.
This right here. Erik is the man.
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 07:04 PM
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This right here. Erik is the man.
Truth.
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Old Sep 23, 2020 | 07:35 PM
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Thanks to Covid, some parts are taking a long time to get delivered. Parts are arriving this week and next.









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Old Sep 23, 2020 | 07:36 PM
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Pistons weigh 381 grams. Quite the improvement over OTS Wiseco (~495g)
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Originally Posted by MixedE36
Pistons weigh 381 grams. Quite the improvement over OTS Wiseco (~495g)
Very nice. Attention to those little details is one reason Erik is so good at what he does.
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Old Sep 24, 2020 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MixedE36
Pistons weigh 381 grams. Quite the improvement over OTS Wiseco (~495g)
Wiseco stroker pistons weigh 496? Maybe stock replacements do. 381 is feather weight for that many cubes.
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Old Sep 24, 2020 | 09:09 AM
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Wiseco stroker pistons weigh 496? Maybe stock replacements do. 381 is feather weight for that many cubes.
That is probably their heaviest OTS piston for this application. Lots of factors determine weight (pin, c/r, volume,etc.). Ranging from about 450g to ~496g.
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Originally Posted by MixedE36
That is probably their heaviest OTS piston for this application. Lots of factors determine weight (pin, c/r, volume,etc.). Ranging from about 450g to ~496g.
I have JE shelf pistons in my 416 with a 3cc dome to achieve 13:1 static, they weigh 420 grams, the Scat Qlite H beams weigh 570, total Bob weight 1651. I’ve seen lighter than that in a 416.

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Old Oct 11, 2020 | 07:12 PM
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It's always great when you get some pictures of your build. Pretty happy with the bob weight. I'm curious to see other's to compare.


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1589 is definitely light.
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Not the best pictures, but the Callie 8CCW is installed, pistons to follow.


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Originally Posted by 64post
1589 is definitely light.
Math works out to 1584...
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
Math works out to 1584...
just going with what op is claiming, 1584 is also light.
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Old Oct 16, 2020 | 08:32 AM
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I calculated 1584g as well, but maybe they added 5 grams for oil? Not too much of a concern though, getting that precise on your balance is very difficult. 5 grams is about .176 oz.

Just realized 5g was already added for oil as Che70velle mentioned.

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Old Oct 16, 2020 | 10:24 AM
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Hands down you have one of the best doing your 416. Erik is one smart individual with the LS/LT platform.
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