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1999 Trans AM. 6.0 LQ4. Is this a good buy?

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Old 06-23-2008, 04:43 PM
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Default 1999 Trans AM. 6.0 LQ4. Is this a good buy?

lright, I really need some advice on purchasing this car. Its a 1999 Trans Am WS6 with 60,000 miles on car. The engine is an Stock bottom end LQ4 with Lingenfelter ported 5.3 heads. Moser 12 bolt rear end, W2W built transmission. Viper internals, steel shift forks, Spec stage 3 clutch. I have seen the car in person, The custom exhaust sounds great. Im pretty sure he told me its 4 inch exhaust with Kooks 1 7/8's headers. I dont understand why for one, they put 1 7/8's and then followed it by 4 inch true duals. I dont even know if its possible to run that over the axle, even with panhard bar relocation. He told me the exhaust setup cost 1600 bucks. Front and rear sway bars, weld in subframe connectors. I saw the receipts for the car, all the work was done by W2W. These guys have some serious money judging by their shop and other vehicles. I offered them 15 grand cash last week, and they told me they couldnt take anything less than 16. I got him down to 15,500 cash money. He was orginally asking 18,900.

The car seems legit, I just wanted to know your guys thoughts... and would very, very much appreciate it. Here are some pictures of the car.















I could really use some advice on this car. Thanks...

Ron.
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good buy.. any times or numbers?
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Yes, sorry. 370 rwhp and 411 rwtq.

Stock cam.
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Seems like a lot to me. You could probably find a 99 cheap and set it up better than that. A stock bottom end on anything isn't much good. My Z28 cost me $8500 two years ago. Heads/cam/headers/rear end don't add up to 15,000 even on mine, and you should be able to get the base car cheaper than I did.

Then again, if you have the money, and the car is tight, go for it. For me, though, building it is half the fun.

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It really is how much is it worth to you the lq4 short blocks a going for less then 700 now. what condition is the car it self in.
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Originally Posted by 95FbFormula
It really is how much is it worth to you the lq4 short blocks a going for less then 700 now. what condition is the car it self in.
The outside just got detailed last wednesday. Paint seems to be in good condition. But, in 2 months when the detail job wears off, it could be a different story. It was shining real bright when I saw it though. The inside was a different story. There were stains on the carpet and scratches on many of the plastic panels. When he told me he wouldn't take anything less than 16 K for the car I told him the interior was not even close to being perfect. Now he is having someone re-work most of the plastic panels and the car is getting a professional steam clean on the carpets. Does anyone agree with me on my thinking that if this were a problem car, he would have let it go for 15 grand in cash? I just dont wanna be buying a problem, but I love the major mods to the car ie. rear end and trans. Also, I could see some major plans for the 6.0 in the near future.
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Originally Posted by 95FbFormula
It really is how much is it worth to you the lq4 short blocks a going for less then 700 now. what condition is the car it self in.
Also remember the 5.3 worked heads. I do not know if he has flow sheets for them though.

The short block has less than 500 miles on it. rear and trans has roughly 7000 on them.
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Originally Posted by Hi-Po
Yes, sorry. 370 rwhp and 411 rwtq.

Stock cam.
thats a little too low for 60k miles and only 370... of course a cam would help it.. but still.. with the interior being a little worn on, id say the outside will be too a bit... i think id let this one pass.. you could get a lot better deal for the same price..
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i would pass, 15k is too hi imo, for the condition,yr. and power
now if it was a 02' that would be a different scenario
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Offer him $9000. That is about where it should be. There are some "buy it now" cars on ebay for like $6500.

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i agree the price is a lil high. its 10 yrs old even though the miles are low. now i do think its worth more then 9k like mentioned above, but 15k?..id shop around!
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Damn, Im so torn between the two. I have two very different opinions on this car. Is the only thing going against the 15,500 price tag the 1999 year model? That is my biggest question I suppose. I mean, would any of you guys pay the 15,000 for a TA WS6 2002 with the W2W built trans, 12 bolt moser rear end, 5.3 lingenfelter heads with a 6.0?

Am I totally crazy thinking that this is "some what" a good deal? Even if I could find a 99 - 02 TA WS6 for maybe.... 12 grand, Theres no way in hell I could put a 12 bolt, 6.0, worked heads, and a built transmission in it for 5 grand. Am I crazy for thinking this could save me alot of money in my future build of this car?

I guess what im saying is, if the rear end is in good shape, along with the tranny, I could build this 6.0 and have a very nice drive train I wouldn't have to worry about. Right? Thanks for any replies, Im supposed to meet with this guy again Saturday morning to test drive and ..... buy the car really.
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Originally Posted by 95FbFormula
It really is how much is it worth to you the lq4 short blocks a going for less then 700 now. what condition is the car it self in.
Where? And with how many miles?
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Originally Posted by Hi-Po
Am I totally crazy thinking that this is "some what" a good deal? Even if I could find a 99 - 02 TA WS6 for maybe.... 12 grand, Theres no way in hell I could put a 12 bolt, 6.0, worked heads, and a built transmission in it for 5 grand. Am I crazy for thinking this could save me alot of money in my future build of this car?
My personal opinion is that this is not a good deal. First off, what is the big deal about it being a 6.0? How much horsepower will you be getting over a 5.7? I would rather find a car with a stock 5.7 that the owner didn't treat so bad that it needed a new drivetrain at 60,000. 12 bolt is about $2200. Do you need a 12 bolt? You can buy better heads than that for around $800, too.

Have you even looked around? There are tons of cheap f-bodies out there that haven't had the whole drivetrain replaced once. Keep looking. It sounds like you are looking at some other guys train wreck.

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Originally Posted by White_Hawk
My personal opinion is that this is not a good deal. First off, what is the big deal about it being a 6.0? How much horsepower will you be getting over a 5.7? I would rather find a car with a stock 5.7 that the owner didn't treat so bad that it needed a new drivetrain at 60,000. 12 bolt is about $2200. Do you need a 12 bolt? You can buy better heads than that for around $800, too.

Have you even looked around? There are tons of cheap f-bodies out there that haven't had the whole drivetrain replaced once. Keep looking. It sounds like you are looking at some other guys train wreck.

-Geoff
Big deal about 6.0? - Fast 90/90 and a decent cam package would put me in the 420/ low 400 tqwp. Also, a 4 inch stroke crank and forged internals and I have my 402/ 408 with some block work. Guys are making SERIOUS power with those setups!!

IMO, everyone of these cars needs a 12 bolt/ 9 inch. The ten bolt is the weakest leak right off the assembly line. 10 bolts suck.

I have been looking for months. This site has tons and tons of LSX cars for sale. Its crazy. Lots of them were so far away, that I just couldn't see driving that far to just check a car out. Dealerships will rape you and you will pay 14 - 16000 grand for one of these cars. I duno, Im going to look at it again tomorrow morning hopefully. Take it for a test drive and make the final offer.
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I agree with others about buying an intact car and adding your drivetrain. You know what's there, and you have a whole set of spares if you did it right



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