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98Zeric Aug 29, 2022 08:25 PM

What's going on with this motor?
 
I did a DOD delete on a 2017 gmc with a 5.3 l83. After about a month of driving, small amount of smoke was noticed coming from the tail pipe. I remove the valve covers and discovered the valve springs on one side of the motor appeared to have oil baked on the springs and the driver side did not.. springs for cyl. 5 and 7 being the worse. The valve seals are also toasted at these locations. The spark plugs for cyl. 3,5 and 7 appeared to be discolored as if they got hot and turning the gold appearance of the spark plug base to a lite grayish color.
any idea of what could cause this??

As for the work done to the truck, ls7 (gm performance) lifters, new trays, new brian tooley springs and seals. Texas speed cam, new ngk spark plugs, lingenfelter dod plugs and vvt lock out. Also long tubed headers installed.
truck was also tuned, there are zero codes (CEL), The fuel trim for that side are higher, however the tuner doesn't seem concerned after asking him about it. I did a comparison test of cyl. 5 with results around 210
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/ls1tech...1a4cf1e6ae.jpg
These are arranged how they came off the heads,

01CamaroSSTx Aug 29, 2022 08:28 PM

It certainly got hot on that bank. Was there ever an issue with the coolant system at anytime?

98Zeric Aug 29, 2022 08:33 PM

No issues, othere then the motor noise associated with bad dod lifters

98Zeric Aug 29, 2022 08:38 PM

Even now the truck doesn't run hot, also the exhaust temp (at the header near the head) are the same, cyl. 5 might be a 50* higher difference.

dixiebandit69 Sep 11, 2022 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx (Post 20454063)
It certainly got hot on that bank. Was there ever an issue with the coolant system at anytime?

How much do you want to bet that the head gasket was flipped on that bank?

01CamaroSSTx Sep 11, 2022 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by dixiebandit69 (Post 20456322)
How much do you want to bet that the head gasket was flipped on that bank?

It's possible..Pretty evident the valve seals weren't doing their job up front on that bank and the oil looks cooked to me.

98Zeric Sep 12, 2022 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by dixiebandit69 (Post 20456322)
How much do you want to bet that the head gasket was flipped on that bank?

Wouldn't this cause over heating issues, amongst other issues?

98Zeric Sep 12, 2022 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx (Post 20456352)
It's possible..Pretty evident the valve seals weren't doing their job up front on that bank and the oil looks cooked to me.

I agree, the cause seems to be unknown

dixiebandit69 Sep 12, 2022 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by 98Zeric (Post 20456541)
Wouldn't this cause over heating issues, amongst other issues?

Here's the thing: ONE half of the engine seems to be running too hot.

I'd be willing to wager that yes, the engine was running hotter than normal, but you didn't realize it because of the factory gauge strategy.
Factory gauges on these trucks ARE NOT ACCURATE. They go to the middle of the gauge (215 degrees) once they get to about 180-190 degrees, then stay there until about 225-230. I've watched this on a scanner.
Your gauge was probably reading the same level, even though the engine AS A WHOLE - at the thermostat outlet - was probably running about 15-20 degrees hotter.
But that one bank was getting a lot hotter, and it was hotter towards the rear, which is exactly what would happen if the gasket was flipped.

If both gaskets were flipped, you'd have overheating issues pretty quickly.

If this is the case, I'd be really suspicious of the cylinder head/ block surfaces.

98Zeric Sep 13, 2022 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by dixiebandit69 (Post 20456610)
Here's the thing: ONE half of the engine seems to be running too hot.

I'd be willing to wager that yes, the engine was running hotter than normal, but you didn't realize it because of the factory gauge strategy.
Factory gauges on these trucks ARE NOT ACCURATE. They go to the middle of the gauge (215 degrees) once they get to about 180-190 degrees, then stay there until about 225-230. I've watched this on a scanner.
Your gauge was probably reading the same level, even though the engine AS A WHOLE - at the thermostat outlet - was probably running about 15-20 degrees hotter.
But that one bank was getting a lot hotter, and it was hotter towards the rear, which is exactly what would happen if the gasket was flipped.

If both gaskets were flipped, you'd have overheating issues pretty quickly.

If this is the case, I'd be really suspicious of the cylinder head/ block surfaces.

that does make sense, we did also use HPT to monitor engine temp, as well external temperature "gun". I will look for the location of the tab on the lower edge of the head gasket, to see if indeed the gasket is flipped..

CamaroSS22 Dec 30, 2022 10:49 AM

It looks like you had a ton of oil collect in that cylinder head, these engines aren't the best for pull over performance. Did you do any work to the heads when they were off? A flipped head gasket could explain the issue, or there could have been some holes that werent manufactured correctly........we all know that could never happen. :)

LilJayV10 Dec 31, 2022 08:41 PM

Hows the PCV system?



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