BlackHawk

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<img src="http://ponchophoto.freeservers.com/04gto.jpg" alt="" />

Well it's just an idea since the car's official U.S. design has not been completed yet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> . There's a guy on the SLP forum (C6Firebird) who has been working on a few possibilities (like the one above) that are better than that hacked up Motor Trend picture that has been in circulation.

Check it out:
http://www.hoodscoop.com/ubb/ultimat...c;f=4;t=018118

cantdrv65

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Looks just like a GTP, I do not like it. THey shouldn't mess with anything and just import the Monaro and rebadge it IMHO.

Ls1girl01 (Amanda)

Zecho..that's the pic i've been looking for. I wish GM would get some ***** and actually make something like the Prototype in the picture. Come on GM..give us some hope!

Zecho

Email me if you want the fullsized pic of the concept.

Just found this on HSV's site.. They seem to be producing the GTO already.

http://www.hsv.com.au/ click on the yellow car.

<img src="http://www.hsv.com.au/cars/vx2/coupe/gto/alt/large/hero.jpg" alt="" />

<small>[ March 31, 2002, 02:19 AM: Message edited by: Zecho ]</small>

Zecho

What happened to this design?

<img src="http://www.radicalmatter.com/gto.jpg" alt="" />

Orange Krush

I want the Pontiac G8! jmo! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

http://new.clubgp.com/sema2000/gpg8.jpg

<small>[ March 31, 2002, 09:07 AM: Message edited by: Orange Krush ]</small>

Zecho

I redid the scoops on the G8, I think these look better

<img src="http://www.radicalmatter.com/gpg8.jpg" alt="" />

Orange Krush

Zech great job!! Now lets send the pic back to GM along with my $32,000.00 check and my order !! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

<small>[ October 23, 2002, 07:47 PM: Message edited by: Orange Krush ]</small>

BlackHawk

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Zecho:
[QB]Email me if you want the fullsized pic of the concept.

Just found this on HSV's site.. They seem to be producing the GTO already.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nope, different GTO. The current Holden/HSV GTO and GTS are cars that are produced for Holden and it's current markets only. The '04 GTO for the U.S. is supposed to be different. Lutz has said they are going to be taking Monaro Coupe's and changing the front end and grill to look more Pontiac. This design will not officially be released until next year's Auto Show, we can only try to speculate on what this will actually look like. Remember this car is going to be a Pontiac and not a Holden. Just like the Dodge Stealth is a Dodge and not a Mitsubishi <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> .

But I do agree with your thoughts on the G8, beautiful car! But it is another great idea that GM will never put into production <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> . It is the Monaro/'04 GTO that they are putting their money into.

<small>[ April 01, 2002, 11:21 AM: Message edited by: BlackHawk ]</small>

BIGBOS

I hope they leave the interiors how they are because its simply badass...kind of luxury compared to the F-body... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

I'm sure Lutz and company won't let us down... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

RPM WS6

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All the Holden based concepts look like ***, IMO. They remind me of Japanese cars. I like that old GTO concept that Zecho posted though. The G8 is nice too.

BlackHawk

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BIGBOS:
<strong>I hope they leave the interiors how they are because its simply badass...kind of luxury compared to the F-body... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

I'm sure Lutz and company won't let us down... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree those interiors are nice.

BTW- Did anyone do the HP conversion for the Holden LS1's?
255kw = 342HP
300kw = 402HP

HSV also has a 6.2 Liter LS6 that pumps out 470HP
in this:
<img src="http://www.hsv.com.au/images/hrtute/rear2th.jpg" alt="" />

Their HRT Ute.

Chevy could use an El Camino SS <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> .

big dave

Here's what I think. I believe one of the main reasons the mustang outsells the camaro/firebird is because of the everyday liveability. People have always conplained about the hump in the floor on the passengers side, the tabletop dashboard, and the go-cart like seating. I for one think the GTO might be a step in the right direction. Yeah, it can never take the place of the f-body but it will appeal to a much wider audience. Couple the upward stance, probably better visability, and more liveable seating, with the same v8 from the vette/fbodys and I think we may have a winner here.Hopefully they can keep the weight down and the horsepower up. I just hope they don't go too overboard trying to give this car too much of a pontiac identity.

Mark IXZD 150

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by big dave:
<strong>I just hope they don't go too overboard trying to give this car too much of a pontiac identity.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">True wisdom. I agree.

Bigida Ute

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Zecho:
<strong>Just found this on HSV's site.. They seem to be producing the GTO already.

http://www.hsv.com.au/ click on the yellow car.

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Just a point to note - in Oz the GTO is actually lower spec than the GTS. Both of these vehicles are produced by HSV which is a separate manufacturer with very close ties to GMH.

The Monaro that goes to the US will be the base model CV8 that GMH will produce. No doubt GM will then develop their own body kits, chips and more than likely internal appointments. The base models are very 'plain' as far as I'm concerned but there is huge potential for body kit development to change the look considerably.

As far as vision? This wouldn't be a problem. The Monaro is basicly the same body as the Commodore, Ute, wagon, Berlina and Statesman (apart from the obvious - number of doors and load space!). All that happens is motor specs, trim and appointments are changed for each model.

<small>[ April 10, 2002, 08:39 AM: Message edited by: Bigida Ute ]</small>