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01ssrunner Sep 23, 2006 01:00 PM

Tryin to run 12's
 
Hey guys im pretty new here, i live in memphis,tennessee my names Cory and im 20 years old. I have a 2001 camaro ss convertible m6 i just got it a month ago, but just bout a true dual exhaust system off this site. soo im going to school and workin part time. This car is my ever day driver but im tryin to break into the 12's. I just ordered an X pipe im gonna cut off the cats and run the the X pipe straight off the stock manifold until i get my lt's and the x pipes go to 2 dynomax bullit mufflers and they dump right after the axles. After the true duals and lt's im goin to get an asp pulley, an slp lid, and i already got a k&n filter, after that im goin to get it tuned at dynoed at a local shop, what else besides torque arm,sfc's, and drag radials should i do to break into 12's???? thanks for all the help guys and i love this site

WS6 Rampage Sep 23, 2006 01:15 PM

Gears, a higher stall and a suspention upgrade is usually what everyone aims for next after your mods. Thats what I'm saving up for myself. Those alone can knock a good second to a second and a half off your current times.

v-8 Sep 23, 2006 01:20 PM

i wonder how you stall a m6????

01ssrunner Sep 23, 2006 01:29 PM

ws6 rampage what r u runnin right now?

98hardtopZ Sep 23, 2006 01:29 PM

with the gas pedal and clutch...silly a4 guys...

WS6 Rampage Sep 23, 2006 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by 01ssrunner
ws6 rampage what r u runnin right now?

LOL,..Hey,..I had just woken up when I wrote that. Wasn't pay'n attention when I mentioned the TC. I guess I should have ben more mindfull of what I was say'n.

I'm run'n 13.563 @ 103mph but at 2700ft above sea level and on 2 bad cats right now. I'm not taking my times seriously untill I get those replaced. I'm more concerned about drop'n my 2.1 60fts right now.

davered00ss Sep 23, 2006 04:28 PM

You should be able to hit 12's with just a tune on an 01/02 car. A vert may need some help. Headers will definitly get you there.

ls1_doc Sep 23, 2006 04:32 PM

Yeah full exhaust and a lid and any kind of traction should get u there. Nice car by the way.

Hypnotiq Sep 23, 2006 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by davered00ss
You should be able to hit 12's with just a tune on an 01/02 car. A vert may need some help. Headers will definitly get you there.

Wait.... what??? You mean all i have to do is go get a tune after i drive off the lot with a stock 01/LS1 engine and i can get a 12? Is it really that bad that i can knock off a .5 second 1/4 with just a tune? Just so u know my current best times is a 13.540 with a 2.1 60 ft on stock tires. If a tune is in need then i will get it ASAP... BTW i just got my first Credit card in the mail :hail:

Lucas'02SS Sep 23, 2006 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Hypnotiq
Wait.... what??? You mean all i have to do is go get a tune after i drive off the lot with a stock 01/LS1 engine and i can get a 12? Is it really that bad that i can knock off a .5 second 1/4 with just a tune? Just so u know my current best times is a 13.540 with a 2.1 60 ft on stock tires. If a tune is in need then i will get it ASAP... BTW i just got my first Credit card in the mail :hail:

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic...but a tune on a stock LS1 will probably get you 20 to 30 WHP. And I believe every 10 HP is about a tenth of a second, but correct me if I'm wrong cuz I don't remember. But you have to be able to drive to get it there. I'm not at all saying you can't drive, I don't know your elevation or anything, but I know guys personally who have driven stock LS1's into the 12's.

Starz T/A 17 Sep 23, 2006 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Hypnotiq
Wait.... what??? You mean all i have to do is go get a tune after i drive off the lot with a stock 01/LS1 engine and i can get a 12? Is it really that bad that i can knock off a .5 second 1/4 with just a tune? Just so u know my current best times is a 13.540 with a 2.1 60 ft on stock tires. If a tune is in need then i will get it ASAP... BTW i just got my first Credit card in the mail :hail:

Its a proven fact that LS1 Fbodies are UNDERRATED from the factory and usually run 13.3 or under with a decent driver. A tune would probally add 10-15 HP on a completly STOCK car. so intake/exhaust will put you in the 12's, but its not the car most of the time its the driver, people think just b/c they have the power the car will do the rest,but in reality these cars are really powerful and you need to know/learn how to drive them to get full potential outa them

Starz T/A 17 Sep 23, 2006 06:46 PM

:drive: yea, ive seen people in BONE stock LS1's run 12.8's it is possible with a driver

Hypnotiq Sep 23, 2006 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Lucas'02SS
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic...but a tune on a stock LS1 will probably get you 20 to 30 WHP. And I believe every 10 HP is about a tenth of a second, but correct me if I'm wrong cuz I don't remember. But you have to be able to drive to get it there. I'm not at all saying you can't drive, I don't know your elevation or anything, but I know guys personally who have driven stock LS1's into the 12's.


No not sarcastic i just was surprised of the difference. :D But ya im at -60 sea level. And i spin mostly through 1st. I have never raced a RWD so i need to get down with launching. It was my first night drag racin in the car. This is also in a A4.

Lucas'02SS Sep 23, 2006 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Hypnotiq
No not sarcastic i just was surprised of the difference. :D But ya im at -60 sea level. And i spin mostly through 1st. I have never raced a RWD so i need to get down with launching. It was my first night drag racin in the car. This is also in a A4.

Okay yeah...since it was your first time I'm not surprised at your time. A lot of people just need time behind the wheel learning how to launch and get the shifts down really tight. If your on street tires, some DRs will help you a lot, and a tune will get you some good power. I got 20 at the wheels with my tune on a bone stock car. Your car being an A4 most likely won't see 20, but it will still be significant. If you plan on doing other major mods I might hold off on the tune though. If you get some bigger mods in and then do a tune you will get a lot more out of the tune.

Hypnotiq Sep 23, 2006 07:11 PM

so at -60 should i be gettin less then 13.5 as a average driver? I know i may not hit a pro's numbers but i would atleast like to be part of the average :cry:

Lucas'02SS Sep 23, 2006 07:57 PM

Haha. Yeah...you being right there at sea level you should be running some very good times in your car. Just get some more time in behind the wheel. And if your time doesn't start improving quite a bit with more practice, you could be losing power somewhere. Could be losing timing, or you could have had bad gas. Maybe your air/fuel is way off. You are at least running 91 octane right? But I think your gonna find you just needed more driving time. Nothing to be ashamed off. Not everyone can go and run great times their first time out.

BuBbABFP Sep 23, 2006 08:02 PM

Lid/Cutout/ nittos..

Hypnotiq Sep 24, 2006 07:04 AM

well thats the thing. I was running 87 for a lil bit cuz i thought it could use it and be fine... the night that i ran i had a mix of 91/87 more 91 then 87 but the mix could result in less then 91.. i have been running 91 tho i think i might go this tuesday also see if anything happens.

Lucas'02SS Sep 24, 2006 12:59 PM

Oh man yeah...you definately want to be running at least 91, and 93 is even better. You were definately losing power running on 87.

01ssrunner Sep 25, 2006 09:53 AM

i have never run from a sit still in a manual soo how would i go abouts my launch (keep in mind this is my first manual car) anyway should i just rev it up to about 4 grand and dump the clutch, once i get off the line i can hit every gear though?!?!?!?!?


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