Clean94Z

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I have two friends at work that both would like to beat me but since they have 2v gts and I own a 03 cobra then they want a peice of my impala ss. One {2000 gt}has already been 13.93/99.9 but has since added a electric water pump,timing adjuster,pullies and upper intake plenum. I am pretty sure he will walk away pretty easy seeing how he should trap 104/105. But the other is a 2003 Gt 5spd with a x-pipe,flowmaster dumps and timing adjuster. If I had to guess he is somewhere in the 99/101 range. They both want to roll race {40 or so}. What do you think? Do I have a shot at the 2003? Or will he walk away? Any suggestions?

Bow94z

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hit em' with the sauce

SDfbody

40 mph is the worse spot to roll from in these cars. You'll be at the bottom of second gear, unless you hold it in first. He'll(2003) probably beat ya from a roll since its a 5spd, but it should be fairly close.

Kazmaniac

Ummmm - the day I had a problem beating a 4-door with my Z I'd drop huge $$$ into it so that won't happen again.

Think they would be bragging they beat your 4-door daily driver family car?

I say if you stay with-in a vehicle based on the fact that they're 2 total vehicle catagories you've won, hands down.

Also - I've never heard of racing from a 40 roll, 'cept for NASCAR. Next they'll want to race in reverse.

kpssmonte

I've beaten a 2v gt 5-spd from 55-120. I don't know what he had done but it did have exhaust.So you will be very close for sure the 2v 4.6 doesn't have much top end like a ls4. If you do race make it from 20-30mph roll.

crippler22

I raced a 2003 supercharged SVT Cobra with my stock Impala SS in a 1/8 th mile. I took him off the line but by the end of the 1/8 he had me by 2 cars. Launching is key with these cars. My reaction time was better but we were even at the 60 foot mark. The SS was spinning more than I liked then the diff saver kicked in. I was happy to only have lost by 2. With a better launch it would have been closer.
I also raced a stock 02 GT 5spd at the same strip. The Impala SS easily beat it by 2 cars with excessive wheel spin. Damn RSA'S!
I hope this helps. Good Luck.

Clean94Z

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At a chance to beat me! HELL YES THEY WOULD! I have always had 12-9 second cars. I bought a automatic 90 5.0lx to built a little turbo project but just found I was putting to much money into just maintaining the car then buying performance parts. I raced the 2000 stock to stock and he whopped my backside. I came across a clean {9 out of 10} 94 z m6 with 66k on it so I sold the 90 and bought it because I have had 4 mustangs and 2 camaros so I figured since I had already done the l98/ls1/302/347/418 is was something new. The 2000 got somemore mods and I did some dyi stuff. I would walk him about a few cars when he ran 99 because I trapped 103. He was buying more bolt-ons looking forward to beat me when I bought the 03 Cobra. My fiance was driving a 05 Jeep and wanted something new so we bought the 07 Impala SS {how hot is a chick in a SS?} anyway I told them it is suppose to run good and now they are seeing it as a shot at me.

Most people around here don't race from a stop because there is not alot of good places. Rolls are just quick and easy and can be done almost anywhere.

Clean94Z

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How do you launch? tc on or off? do you leave it in D or pull it down?


I have not tried to launch the impala yet but my cobra is a bXtch to launch. It wheel hops bad on street tires or dr's.

Kazmaniac

LMAO! Good rep to have ...

We have US-131 Dragway here, which is an IHRA track. Renovated a couple years ago, freaking sweet track! Cost for open test / tune is like $15 for the night. No cops, no minivans.

Clean94Z

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closest track is an hour away. But late at night your can hook up on so country roads.

crippler22

What I found works best is TC off, tranny in D, hold left foot on the brake, and press the gas to 1500 - 1800 rpm depending on track or road condition. On green slide your left foot off of the brake and let the car get of the line and roll your right foot steadily to the floor until it stops you. Then wave goodbye.

KillaGXP

My fathers bone stock 5 speed GT ran a 14.1@98mph with me driving, 2.1 60'. Thats also no track prep and 85 degree weather with T/C kicking on in 2nd. I think i can get it into a 13.9 range easy, never went back with it since though. Iv'e raced him from a dig and from a roll. We are dead even untill 80 or so then i start pulling, maybe 1/2-3/4 car lead by 105. They both want to roll race at 40 because thats there sweet spot. They probably wont go from a 30-35 because thats there bottom of 2nd. I believe the 2000-04 gt's have the 260hp motors, or is it 01-04? if the 2000 is the 260hp motor your right, he will walk you easely. The 03 is gonna give you a run for your money, will be a close race i believe if he can actually bang through the gears and not granny shift. An old friend had a 02 gt convert with X-pipe,flows and K@N, he started walking my fathers GT up top, passed 75 or so. He ran a 14.6 with a 2.6 60'. Its amazing what just an X-pipe will do to a mustang lol. With my GXP i am dead even with my friends from a 35 roll to 120. He rapes me out of the hole by an easy 3 cars and i cant catch up. I think i can pull on him passed 120 that but theres no stretch of road around here thats safe to do it. I dont know what the timing adjuster will do, like how much power it brings out, but this is my experience racing these 2 mustangs. I would tell them to race from a 15-20mph roll and hope he spins when he hits second, that should get you somewhat of an advantage. Good luck though and let us know


If you beat a stock 02 gt 5 speed by 2 cars the driver has no clue how to drive it. Especially if you were spinning like a bitch like your saying. A driver makes a world of a difference in racing. Dont be too cocky in the future if another one pulls up to you, with a good driver you'll be pushing your car to the limit to try to win

crippler22

I'm not to worried about the GT stangs. I raced a LS1 Z28 6 speed with exhaust and ran virtually dead even.

Kazmaniac

Same thing I said about earlier about a family car keeping up - I call that a win, unless you have a MCSS.

Had a conversation with one of my Z28SS friends a week or two ago, talking smack about my MCSS. A couple of 10ths seperating the two - need to break open that wallet to widen the gap.

KillaGXP

Am taking it your modded? A good stock LS1 is in the 13.3-12.8 range. My friends 00 SS 6 speed bone stock ran 12.8. Not starting an arguement just wondering. The fastest LS4 i know of to date is area's, he ran a 13.3@107-108 with slight mods and a 60 or 75 shot....If your stock i cant see you being dead even with a LS1 unless he cant drive. Anything is possible on the streat right

kpssmonte

stock for stock it's very close between a ls1 z28auto and a new mcss.The monte is less than 100lbs heavier and only 7hp less.But 50,000miles on a z28 will make a small to large differance depending on the maintance.

crippler22

1st the Gt stang I raced was one of my first races with this car and was on a notoriously slick piece of pavement. Advantage RWD stang still beat him though.
The LS1 Z28 6 speed had a passenger. We raced from a dig he had me by maybe 5 feet to 70 mph. Then we raced from a roll he got the shift and beat me to 100. We slowed back to around 60 this time we hit the horn 3 times and went. The Z couldn't catch the Impala SS until I shut it down at 115.
That is a virtual tie.
The SS is stock. K&N air and oil filters and Royal Purple synthetic.
The Z28 had an exhaust. My Impala SS is 303 hp new rating. The Z28 305 hp old rating. So I do have more stock ponies under the hood. Add the passanger and you have a race.

Chrsmi1

um....just so everybody here is clear, ALL LS1 engines have around 345 hp at the flywheel. That rating bullshit that you guys are quoting is horribly wrong. Everybody knows they just did that so the C5 corvette would sell. You guys do know this is an LS1 site right? Check it out if you don't believe it.

Oh and i have raced more than one stock LS1 in my Monte and they ALL pull away after about 60-70.

kpssmonte

Are you sure the specs are the same on all ls1's,Cause I tought the cams were different depending on the car?And the exhaust and air lid are different.

crippler22

You better get your car checked then. I raced only 2 but the second was against a stock camaro SS with a really good driver. He got me by 1 car off the line but could not get any further ahead than that. We ran up to 85 mph. Bottom end seems to be my cars problem and thats mostly because it is hard to get it to hook up. From a roll my tranny out shifted the driver of the Z28 and I won not by a lot but I won.