Track Times with the Cadillac Cam finally!
 

So guys. . . i know for the longest time i have been promising some track times for my Cadillac Cammed A4. . . here are the results.

12.93 @ 104.6 with a 1.9 60'

that was the first run of the night and my first time running at the track with the new 3200 rpms stall converter.

Cars mods are: Pacesetter LT's, e cut-out, SLP CAI, U/D pullies, Cadillac Cam 1.6RR's, rebuilt tranny with Edge 3200RPM stall, and a tune.

I think with a little more practice the car is capable of pulling at least a 1.8 60' dropped my 1/4 time to about a 12.7

next mod is hopefully a bigger throttle body :chug:

ohh and also that was with a DA of 1830

and the time corrected would be a 12.66 @ 106.8

nice, any 1/4 mile times before the cam?

The real question I'd like to know is what times would that cam run with stock manifolds, since that's what it was cut for.

no, sorry never ran the car prior to the cam.

blew a head gasket and found the cam had a few scratched lopes and also had 2 or 3 stuck lifters so everything in the valve train was replaced.


yea i'd be interested to know as well.

Not bad at all!!!! Work that 60ft down and your see some good gains on the top end!

What tire and your running and gear?

nitto NT555R's 245 and 3.23 gears

Good for you, a few questions though. Have you at least put a mail order tune in the car? How are you using the converter, stalling it up or flashing it?
Iv'e only used two types of DRs, MT and Nittos. With the Nittos I had to run 15-16 lbs. cold and do a real long burn-out. I think with some tweaking and a good air day you should see some mid 12s. :chug:

With that MPH, I don't see much more than a 12.8...

i've got a tune, and i was running 36lbs of air in the tires, didnt even think about lowering the pressure because i was in such a hurry to make the second pass before the track closed. tons of ricers out there cause F&F friday night. and i stalled the converter up the first time to about 1500rpms, the second run i tried 2000rpms and gave it a little to much outa the hole and ended up running a 13.1 with a 2.0 60'.

well if i can hit a 1.8 60' theoretically i'd be pulling a 12.7.

so really all the improvement i need to make is in my 60' times. and this was my first time at the track with an A/M stall in general, let alone it being a 3200.

and i dont see why i wouldnt be able to pull a lower time if i drop more off my 60' with some stickier tires like M/T's or something.

I think most will recommend not running the air pressure that high (street driving) or you'll wear the middle of the tire. I run 25lbs. cold on the street. Try flashing the converter next chance you get, you might be surprised.

Well thats the pressure Discount Tire put in them, and personally how they wear really doesnt matter to me much, my buddy is a manager and i can just put a nail in both tires and get new ones cheap as dirt since i have the warranty.

and what do you mean flashing the converter exactly?

If you get the 60' down a bit, you might squeeze a high 12.7 in super good weather, but I'm not so sure you'll see much more than that. Trap speed is an indication of the power of your car, and you're a little on the low side.

JMHO of course. Nice numbers regardless.

yea i understand trap speed is a good indicator, but i think might be able to squeeze a little more trap speed wise out of the car too, my second run my trap speed was a full mile an hour slower cause i messed the launch up just a little bit. and i dont think my first run was the best launch i could pull either.

but who knows. . . i should be going back next weekend and plan on making several passes playing with how i launch and what not to see what kinda numbers i can produce.

Good luck. :)

Ok just did a little :google: searching and reading and found out what you ment by flashing.

and the first run it seemed like i did flash the converter cause i rocket'd out of the hole, the second run it did not seem like i did and the time slips would agree.

but what you are talking about it holding the rpm's at about say 2300 [my stall is a 3200] and right as the last yellow light goes, stabbing the throttle so it flashes the converter higher than the stall speed typically would be, instead of just leaving off the rpm im stalling it to waiting for the tree.

correct me if im wrong please.

Nice having a tire buddy like that. Flashing the converter, when your staged just let it idle and punch it. Try that a few times and then try 1000rpm and then 1200 rpm etc, etc.

Yea def nice having a tire buddy :chug: haha!

and ill def try just smashing it off idle from the start, as well as playing a little more with the tire pressure this comming weekend when i go again :devil:

thanks for the read guys! hopefully i can come back next monday with at least a 12.8 . . . hopefully a 12.7 :devil:

How much is the Cadillac cam? Does it drive, and sound, like stock?

With headers I'd recommend going with a larger cam.

Nittos like a really long burn out to really get them to work right

What are the specs of the cadillac cam?

yes it does.


and he could yes, but there are plenty of people who run the LPE 211-219 cam and others that are similiar in duration that have full bolt-on's including headers.

its all a matter of personal prefference. :chug:

yea i did a huge john force burn out both times and they seemed to hook alot better than they had before.

212-219 with some decent lift .53x's and .54x's and thats with stock rockers so with 1.6's it goes up even more.

I think the MPH is low. There are bolt on cars running that kind of MPH. You might need a tune to help wake it up some.

Damn, if I had known the specs on this cam when I was looking for small cams I possibly would have gotten it instead of my LPE due to the higher lift!

Small cams are fun!! :chug:

with a 3200 stall you should be able to cut much better 60foot's last year with my 3200vig, i hit a few 1.69's and consistant 1.7's with the track nice and prepped. I ran a 13.08 with a 1.8 60ft at 102mph with cat-back, stock manifolds, cold air, no cats, slicks and the 3200vig. Seems like your set-up should have more in it with that MPH and get that 60ft down and i see 12.7's preety easy if not better...

I trapped 104.5 on a 90* summer day. That was with cai and catback only, on the stock goodyear eagle gsc's. I would say your slightly down on power(could be the converter), but overall not bad at all. 12's is nice congrats!

:read: i have a tune!

and like i said if i were at sea level that would have been a 12.66 with a 106 trap speed. for a stalled auto i'd say thats pretty damn good.
plus i still have the stock TB.

i agree i like the smaller cams. and yea with my 1.6RR's i have lift numbers of .565 and .576 which are pretty high lifts for a lil baby cam :devil:

thank you finally someone who agree's, i also think with some practice i should be able to cut a much better 60' and easily pull a 12.7 with a DA damn near 2000 i'd say thats impressive for a bolt-on baby cammed car. and with a stock TB and stock water pump too.

you are M6, way different man, and whats your DA. mine that night was just a touch under 2000. at Sea level my Trap would be 106. remember stalls tend to soak up a little Trap speed

and for the record, i trapped 104 with just a cat back and intake as well but that was before the converter.

The stock TB is not holding you back. It doesn't become a restriction until 400whp if I remember correctly. The DA of 2000 explains why your trap speed was low.

Dude im not knockin your setup, im just sayin the converter could be eatin a few mph on the big end, notice the congrats at the end of my post!!!!!!! Not sure on Da im in northeast indiana, it was 90 out with 100% humidity. Besides that was 8yrs ago, I was just goin back in my head and tryin to compare. Im sure you can get that 60ft down a bit and it will run mid 12's.

thats kinda what i thought too, people just seem to throw DA out of the window when it really does play a big part in track times and trap speeds. i mean hell like i've stated a couple times. my corrected time would have been a 12.66 @ 106. then im sure people would have been surprised and saying great run! i just dont happen to live anywhere with a DA near zero :lol: :chug:

its all good man, wasnt taking it as a knock, and you are correct the stall will soak up some MPH in turn for having a much better launch. that why i think a little 50 or 75 shot is in my future :devil:

and if i could get potentially a 1.7 60' that'd be .4 off my 1/4 mile time using the rule of thumb that every tenth in your 60' dropped is 2 tenths total 1/4 mile time dropped.


thanks for reading everyone and after this coming weekend and some practicing launching i hope to be coming back with a better time for you guys! :chug::chug::chug:

Its hard to tell what your car would run in better DA. Those calculators aren't always the greatest. Just work on getting the 60ft down and you'll be happy.

ohh shit i am already happy man :chug:

but i would be alot happier with a mid 12 true true :ripped: haha!

ill be working my launch out this coming weekend and hope to come back with at least a 12.7.

and yea i know those calculators arent the best, but hey its an estimate. i guess ill just have to travel to one of these tracks that have some negative DA's or near zero :D