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RaggedRides Apr 6, 2009 08:38 PM

LTX'd 1980 Formula Project
 
Progress will probably we rather slow, but I'll link all post numbers with significant updates here.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/11391603-post18.html





http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1.../DirtyBird.jpg

Just a few quick shots of something I've been working on lately. This is Harvy Bird, the Formula I daily drove before getting my Z28. I gave it to my little brother last year on his 16th birthday and he's been working on it ever since, rebuilding the suspension, painting this and that, working with the interior, and now onto an engine swap.

The old 400/TH400 was reliable, but sluggish and thirsty as hell. A few months ago we picked up an LT1 out of a '97 Z28. Complete engine, intake to pan, as well as the harness and a few extras. We're going to use the BOP TH400 and bellhousing adapter, 1 3/4 Heddman longtubes, '95 GT electric fans and scrounge up the rest through the classifieds, Ebay or the local boneyards. After we finish getting it mounted in there, we're going to get started on the fuel system and wiring. I'm sure I'll be bugging you fellas for advice.


Figured I'd share the damage we did yesterday.



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LT1 Apr 6, 2009 08:48 PM

Very nice looks fun!

matt94z Apr 6, 2009 09:13 PM

Looks like a nice project.

DAVE00 Apr 6, 2009 10:04 PM

God I wish we had that much room to work with the engine bay!!! Nice project boys and good luck.

jebcamaro Apr 6, 2009 10:16 PM

Looks good! Keep us posted. I`m installing an LT1 in a 67 camaro right now. Got a ways to go to get it done though

Black93_Formula Apr 7, 2009 12:04 AM

wow that looks like a fun project and a dream come true lol. keep us posted on the progress

BizZzatch350 Apr 7, 2009 02:51 AM

Looks great, all that room must be so nice compared to a 4th gen.

monster81 Apr 7, 2009 03:25 AM

awesome ,,looks great :) and yes keep posting more pics ;)

z28rob18 Apr 7, 2009 06:43 AM

looks lik a fun cool project! stock lt1 no cam or anything right?

myltwon Apr 7, 2009 07:53 AM

that's bad ass

not too often you get to see an LTx swapped car these days

trippinholyman Apr 7, 2009 07:56 AM

beautiful, wish i had an 80 bird instead :P

RealQuick Apr 7, 2009 08:30 AM

so much room for a turbo... :secret2:

I8ASaleen Apr 7, 2009 09:51 AM

How much did it weigh b4 the swap???

RaggedRides Apr 7, 2009 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by DAVE00 (Post 11385113)
God I wish we had that much room to work with the engine bay!!! Nice project boys and good luck.

You ain't the only one, brother. We were half tempted to do a hot tub swap under the hood and invite some girls over. I think there's plenty room for a half dozen.


Originally Posted by jebcamaro (Post 11385190)
Looks good! Keep us posted. I`m installing an LT1 in a 67 camaro right now. Got a ways to go to get it done though

Another Nawf Mississippi swapper? Rock on; we'll have to keep one another updated on progress and hit the road one day. :pimp:


Originally Posted by monster81 (Post 11386244)
awesome ,,looks great :) and yes keep posting more pics ;)

No doubt! Much better weather today, so maybe we'll get a few more.


Originally Posted by z28rob18 (Post 11386430)
looks lik a fun cool project! stock lt1 no cam or anything right?

Just headers, thermostat, CAI and stall for now. Can't wait to get to the point when we're ready to swap a bumpstick in. :devil:


Originally Posted by RealQuick (Post 11386775)
so much room for a turbo... :secret2:

You aren't kidding; it's like an old Lincoln Continential under there. He'd like to run some boost in the future. Keep the hood closed and tell people, "It's just an ol' Turbo TA." :D


Originally Posted by I8ASaleen (Post 11387103)
How much did it weigh b4 the swap???

Good question.. I weighed it once, but can't remember exactly. I think it was around 3400lbs. I will say it doesn't get much heavier than a Pontiac 400. The heads alone were 130lbs! :barf:

SoxXpupPeT Apr 7, 2009 03:54 PM

im loving this build! what headers are you going to run with it ?

RaggedRides Apr 7, 2009 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by SoxXpupPeT (Post 11389148)
im loving this build! what headers are you going to run with it ?

1 3/4 Heddman longtubes out of a Jegs Catalog. They're for an old school smallblock, but are wide enough to work with the LT1's heads. They're painted versions and were $215 shipped with flanged reducers. I'll get pics of 'em.

SoxXpupPeT Apr 7, 2009 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedRides (Post 11389626)
1 3/4 Heddman longtubes out of a Jegs Catalog. They're for an old school smallblock, but are wide enough to work with the LT1's heads. They're painted versions and were $215 shipped with flanged reducers. I'll get pics of 'em.

ah nice. thats gotta be nice to not have to spend an arm and a leg for LT1 long tubes lol. im jealous of the swap man! id love to throw an LT1 or LS1 into my impala. the 267 is tired :eyes:

RaggedRides Apr 7, 2009 09:57 PM

Updates
 
We got out there today and got the motor mounts straight. Took a little prying and cussing, but we got it bolted in on both sides. I can't believe the amount of room under there. I don't think you could ask for a modern, fuel injected mill to drop in any more easily. The wiring and fuel will be the nerve racking part, I'm sure.


Bird watching
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With all the room above the intake, a HSR conversion would be killer.
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Passenger side header? Here's an idea of how it'll drop in there. With the dipstick tube and plugs out of the way, I think it'd be a 20 minute job to do both sides. Wish I could say the same for my Camaro. We'll probably end up respraying them in black or something that shows up less grime.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...DSCN1092-1.jpg
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Front clearance. It'll be eaten up with the brackets, radiator and fan, but still plenty of room to work with.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...p/DSCN1089.jpg




This gives you an idea of how the radiator and fans will sit. We have a 4th gen piece on the way to replace this radiator, which came out with the 400. The electric fans are from my old '95 Mustang GT.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...p/DSCN1105.jpg




Think swapping plug wires will be an issue? :eyes:
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Down next to the K-member. Filthy, I know. We could have spent some more time cleaning, but got impatient.
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Contemplating sticking the ECU over here on the passenger side of the firewall. Fits pretty snug as is and conjuring up a mount shouldn't be too hard.
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I'll be out of town for about a week, so I told my brother his homework assignment is getting the wiring laid out and labeled. From there we'll work on eliminating the extras and getting an idea of how we'll route it. Neither of us have ever worked with wiring up an EFI engine, so it'll be a learning experience fo' sho'.

Formula350 Apr 7, 2009 10:14 PM

Use the cooling fan out of the Taurus, it's a 2spd :D They recommend it for the S10 V8 swaps, so it's obviously enough to cool a V8. Looks identical to that one, with the extended shroud on the one side. I don't know the specific year for the one to use, but I can get you that if you want, and even the Ford part number off it if that'd help. My friend has one laying around for his S10 swap he's been planning.

Looks great though!

SoxXpupPeT Apr 7, 2009 10:40 PM

i love this build! its coming out so nicely. the car looks real clean over all man!


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