mdacton

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All you need to do is call your local dealer and they can write up an order for brodix and specify LT1. They can cast you a set of track1 or whatever you want for LT1 and its only an extra $400, the same as a conversion cost and you still get your heat treating process and don't have to weld on your new heads.

You can't get them cnc or just buy a set and send them to Lloyd elliot if you want to....

Just figured I would let you guys know this option is out there, and they have alot better heads than afr imo.


Good luck

Bersaglieri

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Very true, that they will, did you say you cant get the CNC'ed or sent to lloyd?

-Dustin-

BizZzatch350

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Thats pretty cool, that opens up a good bit of choices for the LT1 crowd. Does this only apply to the 23* stuff?

LS1 SPEED

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good info

Anthony0908

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How do I go bought getting a set that a traditional SBC intake will fit them? Or do I have to adapt the intake?

mdacton

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You tell them what you want and they will make it happen.....

Bersaglieri

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How about a steak and BJ day, everyday

On a serious note, I thought I heard Dart would so something similar.

-Dustin-

Anthony0908

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Thats hot ima have to open a side account away from the wifey lol !!

97Z28SS

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Cool beans I might get a set of the 18x which use 23* valvetrain parts and just change my pistons.

Beaflag VonRathburg

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I'm guessing they are simply setting them up for reverse flow cooling. The intake manifold bolt pattern should be the same. I'm sure if you called them they could do either.

mdacton

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everyone has told me those are a POS

Puck

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Even the CNC'd 18X heads don't flow much better then a lot of 23* aftermarket castings

I'm sure hand porting them would bump the numbers up even more, but then you still have the HUGE chambers and would need dome pistons for any kind of nitrous or NA build .

mdacton

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I like dome pistons myself

97Z28SS

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Yea but I've seen flow numbers in the 320-330 range, what other 23* head even comes close?

joelster

I have to disagree with you on the bolded part, it is a little misleading. As far as 23 degree stuff, no way in hell do the Brodix heads match up. Not even the Track 1's or the -10 RI, -10 X. But, for overall options in cylinder head choices, then I will agree with you. Brodix makes 18 degree stuff,16, 15, 13.5,13 , 12, 11. They make stuff that flows well over 400cfm, but you could buy a really nice LT1 car for the price you'll pay for some 12/11 degree heads. You are correct that their exotic stuff is better than a 23 degree AFR head, but people should take note that some of the really good heads that flow 350cfm+ are well over $4000 for bare heads. The best choice would be a set of 18 degree heads that use 23 degree valvetrain components. Those heads flow over 300cfm with a 244cc port, and cost $2500 (minus the conversion). I would think that SB2.2 stuff could be found cheaper, but it's nice to know other companies are looking out for us too.

Puck

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Yep, the CNC ported 18*s from Brodix flow right around 325cfm IIRC. Ported AFRs, Ported Trickflows, the old Canfield's, and maybe ported Darts(Have not seen too many results from them yet) can all match or beat that for less then converting to those heads would cost. Those are just LTX castings as well, and not getting into converted SBC 23* race heads .

IMO AFR is still top dog for most 23* stuff, and for the real racey setups some converted SB2.2 or SBC race heads like RHS will get the job done. Not too much real world results with the low angle head stuff on LTXs...it may perform great, but it sure would be expensive to find out!!!

I'm jealous - wish I was brave enough(and had to cash) to try to get some custom dome pistons to work on my 383. Then I wouldn't have to mill so much off my AFRs to get the compression where I want .

Still awesome that they are looking out for the LTX guys though...$400 extra to have them converted from the manufacturer is a great deal.

James Montigny

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A very good option, can't wait to see how they work out for people.

mdacton

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Joel there are a few point in your post that just go to show some of your knowledge or lack of in race head department.

I am compairing afr227 LT1 head to a brodix track1 head.......I have seen alot faster cars with track1 than afr's.

Like I previousl said the 18x everyone seems to say they are a POS. The flow number from them are inflated and the lack of performance from them shows.... many track one owners are busting some serious 18x asses.

If your going to spend that much for heads IMO your would be a fool not to spend another grand and go with a monster head cnc from RFD or something similar......If I was looking at that kind of money I would want the little extra and go to a 15* http://www.raceflowdevelopment.com/R...ck-monster.htm

fergymoto

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Why are you so opposed to running dome pistons? People have been running them for decades in every kind of motor. Save your heads and run some domed pistons.

joelster

I never said I knew everything. Show me some examples of track 1 heads running great numbers. I am not saying they are not out there, but I have the Brodix catalog in front of me, and the track 1's have decent numbers nothing extraordinary. Maybe track 1's with some port work and perfect cams, with dialed in combos run amazing. I am looking at them right now, and they make 4 versions of it. 2 are as cast and 2 are cnc'd. The best one is a 227cc version and it is impressive (KC TI 227) BUT it is $2140.58 bare, then figure $400 for the LT1 version, again bare. Fully assembled it would run you close to 3 grand. My 227 AFR's were assembled/shipped for under 2 grand.

Those are sweet!