Help pushin a stockbottom end lt1 into the 10s
06-12-2012, 09:22 PM
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How many miles are on your short block now? Also....are you still on the stock TQ arm?
06-13-2012, 06:08 PM
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Congrats man that's moving but damn, you might have to pm me how you got the car that light 2,900 lbs is ridiculous. If I could get down to 3,250 race-weight with out cutting up the car I would be very happy. I probably just dropped a 100lbs off the car with some recent changes now I have to find another 200.lol
I weigh 200 so....
06-13-2012, 07:17 PM
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Wow man seriously that's light no matter how you did it. I'm all ears unless it involves sawzaw or whole saw.
Joelster says your thinking about the shootout but damn man you would have to add 400lbs to make weight for the class. lol
06-13-2012, 08:03 PM
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I call bullshit on weighing that much without any extra metal cutout and being that light!
I had the exact same car with bone stock everything including the stock long block with a converter only on stock suspension. Slicks, stock tq arm and on prostars. Even stock manifolds to a custom y pipe to a flowmaster muffler then dumped b4 the axle. IT ran consistent slow *** 12.9s on motor only and on the the juice with 110 octane, stock pcm AND tune it ran 11.4s with a 1.5 short time.
I weighed everything off the car from the time it was stock to being torn down and it still was NO where near 2800lbs WITHOUT cutting out fender rails, all a/c and heat, aftermarket CM suspension, tube frame and the list goes on.
I had the exact same car with bone stock everything including the stock long block with a converter only on stock suspension. Slicks, stock tq arm and on prostars. Even stock manifolds to a custom y pipe to a flowmaster muffler then dumped b4 the axle. IT ran consistent slow *** 12.9s on motor only and on the the juice with 110 octane, stock pcm AND tune it ran 11.4s with a 1.5 short time.
I weighed everything off the car from the time it was stock to being torn down and it still was NO where near 2800lbs WITHOUT cutting out fender rails, all a/c and heat, aftermarket CM suspension, tube frame and the list goes on.
06-13-2012, 08:29 PM
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I call bullshit on weighing that much without any extra metal cutout and being that light!
I had the exact same car with bone stock everything including the stock long block with a converter only on stock suspension. Slicks, stock tq arm and on prostars. Even stock manifolds to a custom y pipe to a flowmaster muffler then dumped b4 the axle. IT ran consistent slow *** 12.9s on motor only and on the the juice with 110 octane, stock pcm AND tune it ran 11.4s with a 1.5 short time.
I weighed everything off the car from the time it was stock to being torn down and it still was NO where near 2800lbs WITHOUT cutting out fender rails, all a/c and heat, aftermarket CM suspension, tube frame and the list goes on.
I had the exact same car with bone stock everything including the stock long block with a converter only on stock suspension. Slicks, stock tq arm and on prostars. Even stock manifolds to a custom y pipe to a flowmaster muffler then dumped b4 the axle. IT ran consistent slow *** 12.9s on motor only and on the the juice with 110 octane, stock pcm AND tune it ran 11.4s with a 1.5 short time.
I weighed everything off the car from the time it was stock to being torn down and it still was NO where near 2800lbs WITHOUT cutting out fender rails, all a/c and heat, aftermarket CM suspension, tube frame and the list goes on.
A UMI tubular k-member for LT1 cars= 33lbs
A PA Racing Chro-mo k-member for LT1= 20lbs
For cars with true duals right off of the header...
Hooker Super Comp mufflers = ~24lbs (2 of them)
Flowmaster aluminized 44's= ~14lbs (2 of them)
275/60/15 drag radials= ~38lbs (2 of them)
27x11.50x15 Hoosier QTP's= ~22lbs (2 of them)
Strange S60 with a posi= ~220lbs
Strange S60 with a spool= 185lbs
15x3.5 rim with a radial tire= 56lbs for the pair
15x3.5 rim with Moroso DS-2= 38lbs for the pair
These things add up to a 94lb weight difference right there.
06-13-2012, 08:34 PM
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I remember someone else...think it was Joelster...saying that he knew the car from when it was nearly new and that it was ALWAYS a freak as far as running better than the average LT1. Some cars are just ringers from the factory for no rhime or reason. Doesn't matter whether you believe that or not.
As far as the weight thing goes.....I've seen so many variations there it's crazy. I've seen cars that were stock weigh the same or less than some that had alot of stuff removed for racing....on the same day and the same scales. I can't explain it. My 61 Bel Air weighed 150 lbs. less than my daddy's 61 Impala. (3600 vs. 3750) Both were 2 door hardtops, SBC, TH350, same wheels/tires. The only trim difference between the cars are 2 extra tail lights on the Impala (which weigh less than 2# each) so whatever the difference had to be sound deadening between the uplevel Impala...plus who knows what. Currently it is all steel except for a bolt-on FG hood and front bumper...has an iron headed BBC/TH400/12 Bolt...stock frame and bolt on suspension....and it weighs 3,550 with my 190# in it. Alot of removing weight is attention to detail.
As far as the weight thing goes.....I've seen so many variations there it's crazy. I've seen cars that were stock weigh the same or less than some that had alot of stuff removed for racing....on the same day and the same scales. I can't explain it. My 61 Bel Air weighed 150 lbs. less than my daddy's 61 Impala. (3600 vs. 3750) Both were 2 door hardtops, SBC, TH350, same wheels/tires. The only trim difference between the cars are 2 extra tail lights on the Impala (which weigh less than 2# each) so whatever the difference had to be sound deadening between the uplevel Impala...plus who knows what. Currently it is all steel except for a bolt-on FG hood and front bumper...has an iron headed BBC/TH400/12 Bolt...stock frame and bolt on suspension....and it weighs 3,550 with my 190# in it. Alot of removing weight is attention to detail.
06-13-2012, 08:42 PM
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Some of you guys just need to examine your cars better and choose your parts more carefully. Here's just a little sample of weights where there is a massive difference.
A UMI tubular k-member for LT1 cars= 33lbs
A PA Racing Chro-mo k-member for LT1= 20lbs
For cars with true duals right off of the header...
Hooker Super Comp mufflers = ~24lbs (2 of them)
Flowmaster aluminized 44's= ~14lbs (2 of them)
275/60/15 drag radials= ~38lbs (2 of them)
27x11.50x15 Hoosier QTP's= ~22lbs (2 of them)
Strange S60 with a posi= ~220lbs
Strange S60 with a spool= 185lbs
15x3.5 rim with a radial tire= 56lbs for the pair
15x3.5 rim with Moroso DS-2= 38lbs for the pair
These things add up to a 94lb weight difference right there.
A UMI tubular k-member for LT1 cars= 33lbs
A PA Racing Chro-mo k-member for LT1= 20lbs
For cars with true duals right off of the header...
Hooker Super Comp mufflers = ~24lbs (2 of them)
Flowmaster aluminized 44's= ~14lbs (2 of them)
275/60/15 drag radials= ~38lbs (2 of them)
27x11.50x15 Hoosier QTP's= ~22lbs (2 of them)
Strange S60 with a posi= ~220lbs
Strange S60 with a spool= 185lbs
15x3.5 rim with a radial tire= 56lbs for the pair
15x3.5 rim with Moroso DS-2= 38lbs for the pair
These things add up to a 94lb weight difference right there.
06-13-2012, 09:08 PM
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