ZGOBYBY

iTrader: (14)

Wasn't there a guy on here with a '89 Jag that was thinking about doing the Shootout...? Would that conversion be allowed?

Shon Herron

iTrader: (25)

I think this is where the minimum weight will help..

quik95lt1

iTrader: (7)

i say no non-gm bodied vehicles in this class......

GIZMO

iTrader: (8)

I have made my pitch to GMHTP to do an article, so I would say that non-GM cars are out. I would say that any GM conversion other than the stock suspended F-Bodies would have to be reviewed. That's if everyone is OK with the third gens.

speed_demon24

iTrader: (6)

What if there was someone running 2-3 mph faster than everyone else. Would you make him pull the cam and throw it on a cam doctor? Without strict tech a class like this could easily be won by a cheater.

lt1-xjs

I was just voicing my opinion like everyone else. If you don't have a level field why bother. The guy with DD 3700# vert with full bolt-ons won't stand a chance, thus ruling out a lot of people that might want to go. A street class should be just that, the allowed bolt-ons, DR's and no weight reductions. Then again that would rule out most people on this board.

AChotrod

iTrader: (17)

So a .020-.030 over stock rebuild wouldnt fly?
I dont see a prob with any GM car if it meets weight and has a SS suspension.

ThreeHonks

iTrader: (10)

no way. for one its more cubes and things like perfect ring gap and a very well balanced rotating assembly are worth a significant gain.

any layout for the rules yet? I think it should be kept pretty simple, just so you dont disallow a ton of cars for a weird reason. hows this look?


-28" tall tire max (non w) or 275/60/15 radial
-anything other than rr's and springs that touches oil is not a bolt on.
-stock trans (60e, 700r4, or t-56)
-any rear
-stock pcm with opti fully functional
-3400 min raceweight
-stock bottom end (ARP rod bolts were not stock )

05HD

I think this would be the logical way to go. I'd also hope that original weight of the vehicle would be a primary consideration in the review process. Not even thinking about 1500 lbs of ballast being extremely dangerous, having the freedom to put that kind of weight wherever you want it would be an unfair advantage.

Shon Herron

iTrader: (25)

Bring the car you want and make sure it fits the rules!
But I recall Russ E being 2-3MPH faster than the field on the first GMHTP bolt on race...it happens when things are done right!

which the rules are being discussed, as soon as they are ready people will know.
heck, I hope several "build" cars for this bolt on class, be nice to see them there repping the OPTI!!

GIZMO

iTrader: (8)

This thread was started so that we can get input from people who want to race this class. I would like to hear from as many potential racers as possible before we write the rules.

The weight will be decided with those racers in mind. If someone chooses to bring a 3700 lb car they will not be turned away, but in the real world convertibles are heavier than hardtops and tend to be slower.

The rules will also be written to keep ballast to a minimum. For the record, anything over 100 lbs has to be permanently attached to the chassis per NHRA rules (500 lbs is the maximum that can be added to any car).

My feelings on the tire rule is that any DOT tire that fits within the factory wheelwells should be allowed. Tire choice is as much a part of tuning a car as anything else. If you think that a massive tire will help you win this class, more power to you.

As far as the inspections go, you guys need to find something else to worry about. The rules will be very clear and they will be enforced.

CamaroRacing12

iTrader: (5)

Well said daren

1961ba427

iTrader: (26)

1997 Camaro SS - Daily Driven (everyday!)

K&N CAI
TPIS Airfoil
Trick Flow Elbow
Aluminum Driveshaft
TPIS Longtubes
unknown brand 3" ORYP
Hooker catback
stock T56
Pro 5.0 shifter
skipshift elim.
Autozone Duralast clutch (stock replacement)
95 Trans Am M6 OBD1 PCM with stock tune except for speedo/gear fix
LT4 knock module
OBD1 knock sensor
CSR EWP
!AIR
!EGR
TB coolant bypass
UMI adj Full length TQ Arm with relocation bracket
KYB / AGX adj struts/shocks
LG Motorsports lowering springs
Kenny Brown 3 pt SFC's
BMR rear LCA's
BMR LCA relo brackets
unknown brand aluminum adjustable PHR
4.10's in stock rear with girdle
Full weight less spare/jack, full interior, A/C, cruise, etc. (never weighed it)
Front sway bar disconnected or possibly removed for race
stock SS 17x9.5 with 275/40 front & 285/40 rear street tires



Other plans hopefully before Sept:
1. Swapping in a 1969 Impala 12 bolt, same ratio (4.10) posi, and converting my BMR lca's into mini-ladder bars. This is very close to stock width for my car. Acceptable??
2. I'd race on 15x3.5 Cragar Drag star fronts & either 15x8 rears/drag radials OR 17x11 ZR1 rears/drag radials (depending on which I can buy or borrow)
3. Scorpion 1.7:1 RR, 7/16" studs, guideplates, hardened PR, spring upgrade
4. Mail order tune or tuned by local guy (not on the dyno unfortunately)

I haven't had the car very long, and if it's ever been dyno'ed, I don't know about it. I'm no stranger to the track, but never in this car.

Black94Z28

iTrader: (12)

Im in with my 94 as long as LS1 front clips are allowed

Nothing internal has yet been touched although 1.6 rr will be put on soon. Other than that, it is a pretty much full bolt on car right now with a little weight reduction

GIZMO

iTrader: (8)

I don't know why that shouldn't be allowed, but I would suggest against it. You will be moving your instant center way back which makes for a really aggressive hit. I tried this when I had Pete-Z bars on Gump and really hated it.

GIZMO

iTrader: (8)

I see no reason not to allow it. The NHRA specs. for the 1998 F-Bodies show an LT1!

BL96TA

1. Drivetrain modifications: Stock

2. Interior modifications: Stock

3. Exterior modifications: Stock

4. Race weight: 3650 w/driver


If nothing changes ill bring my stock 96 Trans Am. I wouldn't be racing for a trophey so much but id enjoy showing up to participate.
BTW i don't have a problem if aftermarket rear ends are allowed. If 6spd guys want to do 6k dumps thats fine with me. They have just as good of a chance breaking a drive shaft, input shaft, or yoke.

AChotrod

iTrader: (17)

I might build a car for this class and have a buddy drive it down and race it. I have a complete bone stock motor out of my WS6 that went 13.3@103 with the only mods being a cat back and nittos on a 17" rims. It would be a great base to start with then just need a cheap roller to put it in.
Only prob is I would like to know what direction this class is going. Is this going to be an entry level average bolt on car class. Or is it going to be race cars with with stock motors?

BL96TA

I wouldn't like to see a race car with a stock motor run. I think the motor, trans (stall converters allowed trans brake not), interior should be all stock. I don't think an aftermarket rear is a big deal as long as it's of factory length (no mini tubs).

My idea for this class would allow your basic bolt on car to be competitive, so keeping the mods limited to as close as possible to intake and exhaust is key.

GIZMO

iTrader: (8)

Mike, this class intended to be an entry level class for street cars. As with any set of rules, there is always the possibility that someone will build a car on the ragged edge. We will try to be as specific as possible with the rules to cover as many "what-ifs" as possible.

I would hope that requiring, street equipment, tags, insurance, and a current inspection would keep purpose built cars out. What do you guys think about that idea?