stangslayerLT1

Whats a good setup to run decent times at the strip, yet also have some handling?

trilkb

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there isnt one.

MAYBE some strano springs with some adjustable shocks. But your going to sacrafice one thing or another, and its going to cost you some coin for a good front suspension. Some adjustable shocks could possibly help, but your never going to get the BEST of both worlds. You will also have to "tune" each time you switch.

RamAir95TA

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I went down this alley. The two systems completely contradict the efficiency of the other. You're going to have to pick one or the other, unfortunately.

Your best bet is probably going to be a bone stock suspension.

FlatBlackZ28

Just get some adjustable shocks.

v7guy

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There is no suspension setup that will do both well. They are two opposite sides of the spectrum.

If you want to do both I would look at a typical Strano setup, shocks, springs and maybe some swaybars. Being able to remove the front swaybar and maybe swap out the rear springs/rear tires and wheels would make a decent difference but would require work everytime you go from road course to strip.

SS RRR

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Sure there is. Jordon Musser ran his 10 second f-body on road coarses/auto-x'd. I have auto-x'd my car and cut 1.55 60' times in a lowered, full weight f-body. What's needed are good springs, one way (rebound) adjustable shocks up front, good quality/stiff shocks in back, LCA's, relo brackets if car is lowered and a chassis mount torque arm as well as a good tire on a 15" wheel for drag racing. Also, track prep means everything. Even if you have all that and the track prep is crap it will not yield good ET's.

pancho toco loco

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Build your suspenion around the driving you will be doing most.............. Strano's matched with some Konis is not a bad set up. Or Re-valved Bilsteins w/ a Pro Kit

trilkb

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How competitive was it though? Was the only reason his 10 second car made it through was due to a power advantage and not a handleing advantage. Basically, was a 10 second car putting down the same auto-x times that a 160hp miata was with a good suspension. It may do it, and seem to do it quickly, but in the big spectrum im sure its still lacking quite a bit, its power is whats keeping up, not its turn speed. And turn speed is what handleing is all about.

And also, 1.55 60 is good sure, but an all out track car could do better. Just like an all out auto cross car could do better.

There is a happy median im sure, 1.55 isnt bad, and then you can autocross. What me and ramair are saying is that it will never do either one 100% as good as it could. If you beleive a car can, I think your crazy.

But I guess if your not trying to do the best you can, it doesnt matter.

SS RRR

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I am not sure what class he raced in. I just know at that time that it was his DD and he was doing both. I'll ask next time I get a chance. My setup is not all that much different than his. I believe he was lowered more than mine. I'll see if I can ask next time I talk to him. I can't compare my times because I was in a beginner course and was not the fastest. Had nothing to do with the car and how it handled. The suspension is basically stock (SLP Level II wise) except for the Koni one-ways up front, which are just as stiff as the Bilsteins which were there previously. There's no bounce to the suspension. It jounces you proper like.
I don't believe the OP is stating he wants all out handling in both instances. I believe it is more along the lines "decent times and handling" which I think means the best of both worlds. I believe my car runs well in both areas for the suspension it has.
Here's a pic of the 1.55 60'

As said, track prep is king. I am lucky to go to a track that cares about putting enough VHT on the track that it will take the tied shoe off your foot.

Wicked94Z

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A handling type setup can be made to hook, a drag setup can't be made to handle. shocks are going to be very important. I'd use airbags to supplement the sway bar at the drag strip. I'd set the car up for the autox and record your starting suspension setup. Then for the strip... disconnect the front swaybar, maybe drop the LCAs a hole or two, pump up the airbag, front shocks full loose rebound, medium-stiff compression. Rear shocks loose-medium rebound and stiff compression. Gonna need two sets of wheels, I'd try a 17" skinny up front for brake clearance, rears you want a 15" rim, MT 28x9 is a great tire with no clearance issues (only a 27" tire). Springs don't really matter, I run BMRs and my car is really low.

Wicked94Z

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Must be nice, seems the west coast tracks haven't figured out the notion of track prep

ahritchie

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Just concentrate on first getting all the rear end aftermarket suspension parts for traction: (control arms, panhard bar, control arm relocation brackets, torque arm, sub-frame connectors, poly bushings)....believe it or not all this stuff improves the handling/feel of the rear end dramatically and helps lauches a LOT. The rest of the suspension parts that improve handling it is true, they would detract from the performance at a dragstrip (lowering springs, non-drag specific shocks, solid front/rear swaybars, shock tower brace) BUT, they will greatly improve the handling and enjoyment you get driving the car the other 99% of the time you are not on a dragstrip.

JoshuaGrooms83

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one or the other. a true drag setup on the street can be unpleasant and at to the most extreme, dangerous. id rather have a tight suspention thats adjustable then running a loose drag setup that if your not carful could have you in a ditch if you try to get on it in a corner. ive setup my car to run more for road racing, and it is alot more aplicable on the streets. now if all you do is drive your car to the track and race it and then go home, then by all means set the suspention and chassis for it. it will benefit you more that way. but if you drive your car on the street 80% of the time then its not worth it to set it up that way.

RamAir95TA

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JoshuaGrooms83

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JoshuaGrooms83

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JoshuaGrooms83

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