Rebuilt Motor - First Key Turn. No Start.
03-07-2014, 02:36 PM
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Update - Way too much fuel. So we replaced the starter. No more grinding, works like a champ.
New opti. No start. Couple of coughs. Seems more like fuel.
Pulled the dipstick. Reeked of gas. Changed the oil, put new in.
Gave the TB a shot of starter fluid. Car started for a second and a half. Then stopped. I'm thinking the tune is way too rich or something has the injectors stuck wide open. Any thoughts?
New opti. No start. Couple of coughs. Seems more like fuel.
Pulled the dipstick. Reeked of gas. Changed the oil, put new in.
Gave the TB a shot of starter fluid. Car started for a second and a half. Then stopped. I'm thinking the tune is way too rich or something has the injectors stuck wide open. Any thoughts?
03-07-2014, 03:10 PM
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So we replaced the starter. No more grinding, works like a champ.
New opti. No start. Couple of coughs. Seems more like fuel.
Pulled the dipstick. Reeked of gas. Changed the oil, put new in.
Gave the TB a shot of starter fluid. Car started for a second and a half. Then stopped. I'm thinking the tune is way too rich or something has the injectors stuck wide open. Any thoughts?
New opti. No start. Couple of coughs. Seems more like fuel.
Pulled the dipstick. Reeked of gas. Changed the oil, put new in.
Gave the TB a shot of starter fluid. Car started for a second and a half. Then stopped. I'm thinking the tune is way too rich or something has the injectors stuck wide open. Any thoughts?
03-07-2014, 03:29 PM
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That's the thing, the entire fuel system is brand new including the Racetronix pump and the injectors...also tried holding it to the floor while cranking and that didn't get it going. It's flooding out plain and simple from too much fuel. The pressure regulator vac hose is totally dry so the diaphragm is good.
03-07-2014, 04:14 PM
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Pull the fuel rail and injectors still together off the manifold. Simply charge the fuel system and see if any are leaking or spraying. Dont try to start yet. If anything did leak or spray thats ur flood problem.
Just an FYI Madtuner is gone for a few weeks so that aspect of it may have to wait but on his site it did say that he would have email to check for problems.
Have you checked for spark yet?
Just an FYI Madtuner is gone for a few weeks so that aspect of it may have to wait but on his site it did say that he would have email to check for problems.
Have you checked for spark yet?
03-07-2014, 04:32 PM
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Yea, Madtuner is on vacation but I did send an email to him and he did get back to me which is awesome. He suspects that it might be faulty injectors. I contacted the company I bought the injectors off of and he said he would be glad to pull the injectors in, flow them on the bench to see if there are any issues and if there are replace them free but he did say all their products are genuine injectors so I don't know. Seems unlikely to get 8 Bosch injectors that all died at the same time, that were brand new.
For fuel though, the pressure is checked and good. 41 psi at prime, 45 during cranking. Fuel pump, relay, filter, and the whole lot is new. Racetronix fuel pump kit with the harness, installed. Injectors are Bosch Design III 34.5 lb/hr injectors, new.
Opti is brand new. The cam dowel is fine, aligned correctly on both the opti and the cam pin opening. Wires new. Plugs new. ICM new. Coil new. And judging by the fact that it did fire right up with premium starting fluid, ignition isn't the issue.
Starter and battery are new. I'm running out of ideas. I feel like its either the tune or the injectors.
For fuel though, the pressure is checked and good. 41 psi at prime, 45 during cranking. Fuel pump, relay, filter, and the whole lot is new. Racetronix fuel pump kit with the harness, installed. Injectors are Bosch Design III 34.5 lb/hr injectors, new.
Opti is brand new. The cam dowel is fine, aligned correctly on both the opti and the cam pin opening. Wires new. Plugs new. ICM new. Coil new. And judging by the fact that it did fire right up with premium starting fluid, ignition isn't the issue.
Starter and battery are new. I'm running out of ideas. I feel like its either the tune or the injectors.
03-07-2014, 06:30 PM
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Yea, Madtuner is on vacation but I did send an email to him and he did get back to me which is awesome. He suspects that it might be faulty injectors. I contacted the company I bought the injectors off of and he said he would be glad to pull the injectors in, flow them on the bench to see if there are any issues and if there are replace them free but he did say all their products are genuine injectors so I don't know. Seems unlikely to get 8 Bosch injectors that all died at the same time, that were brand new.
For fuel though, the pressure is checked and good. 41 psi at prime, 45 during cranking. Fuel pump, relay, filter, and the whole lot is new. Racetronix fuel pump kit with the harness, installed. Injectors are Bosch Design III 34.5 lb/hr injectors, new.
Opti is brand new. The cam dowel is fine, aligned correctly on both the opti and the cam pin opening. Wires new. Plugs new. ICM new. Coil new. And judging by the fact that it did fire right up with premium starting fluid, ignition isn't the issue.
Starter and battery are new. I'm running out of ideas. I feel like its either the tune or the injectors.
For fuel though, the pressure is checked and good. 41 psi at prime, 45 during cranking. Fuel pump, relay, filter, and the whole lot is new. Racetronix fuel pump kit with the harness, installed. Injectors are Bosch Design III 34.5 lb/hr injectors, new.
Opti is brand new. The cam dowel is fine, aligned correctly on both the opti and the cam pin opening. Wires new. Plugs new. ICM new. Coil new. And judging by the fact that it did fire right up with premium starting fluid, ignition isn't the issue.
Starter and battery are new. I'm running out of ideas. I feel like its either the tune or the injectors.
03-09-2014, 06:36 PM
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We have a new PCM coming in with a fresh tune for tomorrow. Going to try it to see if somehow when we had our grounding issue, it backfed and blew the last PCM. If it starts, then it was probably the PCM.
If it still doesn't start, we can play games with the injectors.
If it still doesn't start, we can play games with the injectors.
03-09-2014, 09:30 PM
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I know you said it is, but are you are positive the fuel pressure regulator is good? I had mine go out and was spraying gas thru the vac line on the pass side of the intake manifold when the fuel pump would prime. It was flooding the engine and would not start, oil smelled heavily of gas. Either pull the vac line off the manifold, or open the throttle body and look inside while someone turns the key (key on - engine off) and see if any gas squirts out.
