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Ruken 08-14-2018 12:56 PM

Lt1 Closed Loop issues
 
So, I'm having a new issue that is leaving me scratching my head. I haven't had time to do a full inspection checking for burnt plug wires or harness. All of a sudden my car has a lack of power, shakes/shudders at WOT and backfires at low rpms. Went through the ignition system and ICM tested bad. Replaced it but didnt fix the issue. 02 on the scan tool is within proper V range although I'm wondering if it's a false positive. FP at wot is good, hooked a FP Guage up and taped it to the window. Car pulls like a raped ape in open loop with no issues. Wondering if anyone else has experienced the same issue. Freaking just dont have the time to do a full diagnostics right now. Barley even have enough time to enjoy the car. Mods in my sig

SS RRR 08-14-2018 01:49 PM

I believe the car goes into open loop when at WOT. On that note, unplug your O2 sensors and see how it drives.

Gojira94 08-14-2018 04:22 PM

Additional checks:
CTS & IAT (resistance value at ambient temp with engine cold and/or hot... hot should be resistance equivalent to 170-215*F)
MAF (you can unplug it but if the speed density tables aren't populated it'll just run a different or additional flavor of crap)
And yeah, PE mode ignores O2 output and goes straight to PE mode VE & timing tables so it'll clear up at WOT if spark and fuel are good, which you verified...

Ruken 08-14-2018 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by SS RRR (Post 19948929)
I believe the car goes into open loop when at WOT. On that note, unplug your O2 sensors and see how it drives.

Didn't even cross my mind, although I did think about doing that for the MAF. Just havent had the opportunity to spend more then 30min looking at it since the problem started. But I am going to give it a try, also I should clarify that when the car is first started and in open loop the symptom isnt there. Once's it gets to operating temp thats when it starts having issues.


Originally Posted by Gojira94 (Post 19949024)
Additional checks:
CTS & IAT (resistance value at ambient temp with engine cold and/or hot... hot should be resistance equivalent to 170-215*F)
MAF (you can unplug it but if the speed density tables aren't populated it'll just run a different or additional flavor of crap)
And yeah, PE mode ignores O2 output and goes straight to PE mode VE & timing tables so it'll clear up at WOT if spark and fuel are good, which you verified...

I was going to try the MAF, IAT's look normal but you and I both know that doesn't necessarily mean anything with out breaking out the DVOM. Ill take a closer look and do some more diag on it when I get some free time. When I do discover what is causing the issue, Ill let you guys know for sure. Ill probably start on it Sat Afternoon.

Ghostinthemachine 08-14-2018 10:21 PM

How Many miles...
also cant do much Unless you inspect the spark plugs
.................................................. ...........................+1 on the MAF

Ruken 08-15-2018 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine (Post 19949196)
How Many miles...
also cant do much Unless you inspect the spark plugs
.................................................. ...........................+1 on the MAF


54k miles on body and motor, if my visual inspection and further diag dosent prove fruitful. The next step is checking plugs, Compression and leakdown test


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