2003 Cobra
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: Holland Twp/Milford, New Jersey
Originally Posted by Dragframe
the cobra puts a low of 350 to the wheels... a high of 38x
Somebody call a Dyno service tech...
Originally Posted by sdm1234
It depends on what LT1 you have. You're comparing a standard transmission to an automatic transmission percentage loss. The auto's definitely have a higher % loss, and that's no secret. Of course your car will put down only 240 to the wheels, but we're not talking about your car. The car in the spotlight here is the WS6 with the T-56 (same as the Cobra). Let's stay on topic here, and compare apples to apples "dood." 
Read my posts above. The WS6 package adds a TINY amount of power to an LT1 or LS1. This small amount of power advantage over a Z28 or T/A can be offset by build tolerances. Considering the cars are all M6's, the LS1's(Z28, ss, ws6) will dyno 300+rwhp or 345+ flywheel hp. The LT1's(z28, ss, ws6) will dyno 240-250+ rwhp or 276+ flywheel hp. The LS1 flywheel hp is way underrated by the factory, and the LT1 flywheel hp is close to accurate. Look up dyno's of stock LS1's and LT1's and you'll see what I'm talking about. BTW these #'s are averages, and you'll hear of the stray car dynoing lower or higher than the #'s I've listed. An LS1 is an LS1 is an LS1, no matter what package the car came with.
Originally Posted by sdm1234
A low of 350 and a high of 38X? Is that with two different cars in two different countries? That's a pretty significant difference coming from the same car, on the same dynamometer. Now, I know dynos produce different readings with the same applications, but 30 RWHP? Somebody call a Dyno service tech...
Somebody call a Dyno service tech...
TECH Resident
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: In a house
How come cobras run high 12's with S/C and LS1 f-bodys can run high 12's if drove right? OUCH! 
Now we know why Ford wanted a S/C slapped on just to keep up with a stock LS1 fbody:
Case in point LS1/Any fbody for that matter-Head/Cam/Supercharger=God
Now we know why Ford wanted a S/C slapped on just to keep up with a stock LS1 fbody: Case in point LS1/Any fbody for that matter-Head/Cam/Supercharger=God
Originally Posted by Redneck Z
Read my posts above. The WS6 package adds a TINY amount of power to an LT1 or LS1. This small amount of power advantage over a Z28 or T/A can be offset by build tolerances. Considering the cars are all M6's, the LS1's(Z28, ss, ws6) will dyno 300+rwhp or 345+ flywheel hp. The LT1's(z28, ss, ws6) will dyno 240-250+ rwhp or 276+ flywheel hp. The LS1 flywheel hp is way underrated by the factory, and the LT1 flywheel hp is close to accurate. Look up dyno's of stock LS1's and LT1's and you'll see what I'm talking about. BTW these #'s are averages, and you'll hear of the stray car dynoing lower or higher than the #'s I've listed. An LS1 is an LS1 is an LS1, no matter what package the car came with.
Originally Posted by infinitebird
240-250 rwhp is more like 290-300fwhp. I agree with everything else you said.
I was going off of 15% drivetrain loss. I think 20% is a bit high.....
Originally Posted by unit213
To answer the question at hand...
I would hands down take a '03 Cobra over a LT1. There is no comparison
between the two.
I would hands down take a '03 Cobra over a LT1. There is no comparison
between the two.
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Launching!
Joined: Apr 2005
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I am not about to go thru all 5 pages of this thread cause it is the same 8 people arguing...... LT1 Vs Cobra (i would take the LT1 and stuff an LS1 in it and take the left over 10 G and make it a powerhouse).......LS1 Vs. Cobra (i would take the LS1) The LS1 takes very little to make FLYING and i just flat out don't like the look of the Cobra........ Now if i had a little of Ford and GM I would buy a Notchback (92-93) and shove an LS1 in it......... YUMMMMM Sexy
TECH Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2003
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From: NYC metro area
I've heard so many morons throw out the "Ford had to slap a blower on the Cobra to keep up with LS1s" argument in my time, especially on this forum. That's the most retarded, ricer *** argument you can make. The Cobra is a car set up for forced induction, the LS1 is a car set up to make big power using more cubic inches with normal aspiration.
Two totally different setups. It doesn't matter what a car's setup is, fast is fast. Stop making whiny ***** *** excuses and acknowledge a fast car. Stock for stock, a Cobra blows an LT1 out of the water, and will almost always run faster than an LS1. Period.
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Two totally different setups. It doesn't matter what a car's setup is, fast is fast. Stop making whiny ***** *** excuses and acknowledge a fast car. Stock for stock, a Cobra blows an LT1 out of the water, and will almost always run faster than an LS1. Period.
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