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Old 10-10-2006, 07:04 PM
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i have a 97 trans am with a 6 sp. what would i need to get in the mid 12's and still keep it well mannered on the street and maintain pretty good gas mileage. right now it has a k&n intake and an exhaust cutout on stock exhaust. these are my plans:

LT headers
2 1/2 inch true duals or tsp rumbler
lt4 hotcam or something a lil bigger
4.10's
pcm4less tune
lt4 knock module
upgrade clutch and flywheel
short throw

i have a 95 ta with an a4 and lt4 hotcam, lt4 heads, hooker lt's, flowmaster, msd ignition, and had 2.73's that ran 13.9 untuned. now my 97 as is feels a bit quicker but the black one is down and out right now so i cant compare them. i figure i'm at about 13.6-13.7 with as is. should these thing parts help me reach my goal or should i get anything else. the car has 104k miles but still runs damn strong. the only problem is around 4300 rpm it stumbles a lil bit so i'm hoping to get a tune up soon and hope that fixes it. any suggestions on all these things are greatly appreciated.
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Suspension, tires & spray.
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Originally Posted by 97blkz
Suspension, tires & spray.
that works too.

id say gears,1.6 rockers,lt headers,tune and tires.
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get a stall after you do the cam and gears.
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Originally Posted by @nthony
get a stall after you do the cam and gears.
Or before.....you'll see a nice diffrence
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dont you have to get a stall matched to your cam and gears?

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Or before.....you'll see a nice diffrence
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Originally Posted by @nthony
dont you have to get a stall matched to your cam and gears?

You match it all together really...
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wtf am i doing, it says M6

i read too much in the auto trans section.
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go with the LE1 kit from lloyd elliott
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i was wanting to make it basically a cam only car for now. later when i need to rebuild i'll go more all out but this is basically what i want right now
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Originally Posted by bandit95
i was wanting to make it basically a cam only car for now. later when i need to rebuild i'll go more all out but this is basically what i want right now
if you are going to do a cam,your going to need a new set of valve springs also..........
heck i'd do those reguardless.
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Originally Posted by juicedimpss
if you are going to do a cam,your going to need a new set of valve springs also..........
heck i'd do those reguardless.
yea i'm gonna do the whole valvetrain upgrade as well. sorry i forgot to mention that in my first post
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i went 12.6's with long tubes, 3.73 gears, bolt ons, and a set of mt et streets. and a 218/224 cam from comp cams.
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I would suggest something other than the lt4hotcam, yes it is a proven good cam, but it is old technology and there are much better cams out there. If you're going to get a tune you do not need the lt4 knock module. Get some drag radials and maybe consider lower control arms. Then go practice driving and mid 12s will be easy.
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Originally Posted by lt197formula
I would suggest something other than the lt4hotcam, yes it is a proven good cam, but it is old technology and there are much better cams out there. If you're going to get a tune you do not need the lt4 knock module. Get some drag radials and maybe consider lower control arms. Then go practice driving and mid 12s will be easy.
If you don't want to go custom, go with the CC503 or 305. If you're willing to upgrade your injectors you can get a CC306 or GM847, but you may be able to get away with the stock ones. I'd definitely do suspension, tires and gears first though.
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i went 13.1 untuned, no weight reduction at all, full tank of gas, 2,73 gears, and lunching at idle last friday with whats in my sig, so u can easily do it with the listed mods and some suspension, an EWP would help too.

My suspension setup was a complete mess when i checked it after I left the track, now its all where it should be and I might go back to the track this friday and I'm shooting for mid 12's before getting the EWP, 3.73's and some more suspension tweaking in a months time.
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I have longtubes and drag radials with stock (3.23) gears and i was able to cut a 2.0 60' foot and a 13.6. I think i have more in it but well see.
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Originally Posted by seawolf06
If you don't want to go custom, go with the CC503 or 305. If you're willing to upgrade your injectors you can get a CC306 or GM847, but you may be able to get away with the stock ones. I'd definitely do suspension, tires and gears first though.
I still run stock injectors with my cc306 When I got it tuned I asked if the duty cycle was nearing too high and he said no, still would'nt mind some 42lbers though.
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Check my sig, 12.8 on motor and a 12.2 on spray. No internal work done....YET!
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Very do-able with a smaller cam and bolt-ons. I had a hot cam w/full valve train, LT's, 3500 stall, 3.42 gears, 30lb SVO red tops, and a tune and went 12.60's@105 on street tires with 100% stock suspension and 100% full weight.


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